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US TV Choppers Crash Covering Car Chase

Four killed in accident (July 2007)

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PH
phoenixrises
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I'd say it's more of a southern thing, because these things also happen in Florida etc.


Arizona is the West , not the South. Please, get that right. I personally do not want to be called a Southerner.
MG
MikeGNE
I don't see what car chases have to do with news in the first place. Once they've made news fair enough - and footage of car chases making news could come from a police chopper - as is usually seen on UK News.

And I don't think the driver can be blamed for one of the pilots errors. If they'd been covering a story about a wildlife park - would we then blame the animals at the park because they were what was being filmed? I think not.
PH
phoenixrises
MikeGNE posted:
I don't see what car chases have to do with news in the first place. Once they've made news fair enough - and footage of car chases making news could come from a police chopper - as is usually seen on UK News.

And I don't think the driver can be blamed for one of the pilots errors. If they'd been covering a story about a wildlife park - would we then blame the animals at the park because they were what was being filmed? I think not.


Let me state the law once more
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The circumstance of negligent homicide is the death during the commission of the unlawful act and the causation is any act that triggers a chain of events, which lead to the death of another person. The result obviously is the death of this other person.
(Source; Black's law dictionary)
IS
Inspector Sands
jrothwell97 posted:
This is something that I find quite sick:

BBC News posted:
Within moments of the collision, other TV news helicopters were broadcasting pictures of the burning wreckage.


so they didn't bother to land and see if they could help?


What could a helicopter do that the people on the ground already couldn't, except for fanning the flames of course.

I've seen footage from a third TV helicopter from just after the crash, the reporter was too choked up to the verge of being sick, to be much help at all

It should be mentioned that that helicopter did share it's output to the 2 affected stations so they could cover the accident too
M
M@ Founding member
Markymark posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
This is something that I find quite sick:

BBC News posted:
Within moments of the collision, other TV news helicopters were broadcasting pictures of the burning wreckage.


so they didn't bother to land and see if they could help?


Not easy to land in all that smoke:-

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=882_1185574862

The ABC Ch 15 output at the moment of impact is here:-

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da6_1185572136


Wow, that second video is dreadful. You can hear the reporter screaming as the helicopter goes down.
MG
MikeGNE
[quote="channel2tv"]Let me state the law once more
Quote:
The circumstance of negligent homicide is the death during the commission of the unlawful act and the causation is any act that triggers a chain of events, which lead to the death of another person. The result obviously is the death of this other person.
(Source; Black's law dictionary)


Well blame the news editor that sent them out to cover this no-story too?
GI
ginnyfan
I've seen this on Fox yesterday, and I hope after this american news channels will change some things. I don't think we need to see two cars chasing around the city. What's the use of it?
I can understand using helicopters when there are floods (like in the UK now), but in cases like this there's no need.
But then again we had helicopters chasing Paris Hilton in a police car - american journalism at it's best.
WW
WW Update
This report includes footage of the actual impact as seen on air:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpN6gOsaNfk

EDIT: As does the link mentioned above.
PH
phoenixrises
[quote="MikeGNE"]
channel2tv posted:
Let me state the law once more
Quote:
The circumstance of negligent homicide is the death during the commission of the unlawful act and the causation is any act that triggers a chain of events, which lead to the death of another person. The result obviously is the death of this other person.
(Source; Black's law dictionary)


Well blame the news editor that sent them out to cover this no-story too?


As a Journalist, I have to say, right now, that although I shan't be doing this, I took a side on this story, and I took the side of the reporters and the station, and against the criminal. True, had this not happen, this would be a story that will pass by next morning's news, but it isn't now, is it?

I believe that providing all points of view on this subject is important to good pictures, and throughout these last 2 years, I have gradually learned more and more through hard lessons and the words of my professor. So, I truly believe in helicopter coverage of certain stories .

This does bring an interesting point, though, in that the stations would be better off operating some sort of associated helicopter news agency, where 1 chopper would cover everything for everyone. However, from the different news agendas that each TV stations in Phoenix has, this is next to impossible.
JR
jrothwell97
channel2tv posted:
Quote:
I'd say it's more of a southern thing, because these things also happen in Florida etc.


Arizona is the West , not the South. Please, get that right. I personally do not want to be called a Southerner.


Whoops.

Just to clarify, when I said 'southern', I meant in the general southern half of the country.
MG
MikeGNE
channel2tv posted:

I truly believe in helicopter coverage of certain stories .


Yes, I agree with that. And of course it can be difficult to find out what is worthy and what isn't. That will depend on the information provided by the police.

But if its just a case of someone's stolen a car an is in a police chase, I don't find it that news worthy - unless they've robbed a bank earlier. I mean if we covered just a stolen car chase everytime it happened here - it would be on practically 24-7.
LU
Luke
channel2tv posted:
]As a Journalist, I have to say, right now, that although I shan't be doing this, I took a side on this story, and I took the side of the reporters and the station, and against the criminal. True, had this not happen, this would be a story that will pass by next morning's news, but it isn't now, is it?.


surely the only 'sides' in this situation were the truck driver and the police? the helicopter was there to follow the entire chase - not catch the thief. it just looks like a tragic accident (and I'm not sure what you being a journalism student has to do with it either?).

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