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US TV Choppers Crash Covering Car Chase

Four killed in accident (July 2007)

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phoenixrises
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
As mentioned previously I think it would be far safer if the news networks obtained a feed from a central source. In theory it could be done via be a secondary (police) helicopter which is up there to provide all the TV networks with coverage.

Unfortunately with multiple helicopters providing to many networks I imagine it creates quite a bit of congestion and it was only really a matter of time before something like this happened.

I don't think it's fair though that the man could be charged with the death of those four people. As unless he fired a gun at the helicopters and shot them down it was the responsibility of the pilot(s). May a chance of someone to review how TV networks cover car chases.


My thoughts entirely. It is extremely sad news and let us only hope lessons can be learned.


Lessons needs to be applied, true, but not at this very moment. Why don't you just let these people grieve for a minute or two?
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Brekkie
channel2tv posted:
Charles, I must respectfully disagree completely with what you said. This idiot had the nerves to car-jack not once, but twice, and now, because of what he did, 4 people died. Although he did not cause them directly, his actions and his decisions brought those 2 choppers down.



Bollocks - if anyone it's the station bosses that should be held responsible. They're the ones who'll have ordered the helicopters to cover the event.


It's always been despicable the coverage they give these car chases - all it does is glorify the joy riders in an effort to give viewers of news programming the impression they're watching a Hollywood movie.



This really was an inevitable tragedy born out of ratings grabbing explotation - and while sympathy should be with the friends and families of the victims, I have absolutely zero sympathy for the organisations responsible.
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seamus
Well I disagree C2tv, it doesn't make sense seeing as he had no way of knowing this was going to happen. WHen I was in the US. I was in the east, and never saw police chases. It seems that it is a mainly Western/Pacific thing. The only time news interrupted tv in NY, was during a plane crash, like the one in october, or something like that, not a trivial car chase. AFAIK, I know, they don't even happen in NY.
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jrothwell97
seamus21514 posted:
Well I disagree C2tv, it doesn't make sense seeing as he had no way of knowing this was going to happen. WHen I was in the US. I was in the east, and never saw police chases. It seems that it is a mainly Western/Pacific thing. The only time news interrupted tv in NY, was during a plane crash, like the one in october, or something like that, not a trivial car chase. AFAIK, I know, they don't even happen in NY.


I'd say it's more of a southern thing, because these things also happen in Florida etc.
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phoenixrises
Brekkie Boy posted:
channel2tv posted:
Charles, I must respectfully disagree completely with what you said. This idiot had the nerves to car-jack not once, but twice, and now, because of what he did, 4 people died. Although he did not cause them directly, his actions and his decisions brought those 2 choppers down.



**** - if anyone it's the station bosses that should be held responsible. They're the ones who'll have ordered the helicopters to cover the event.


It's always been despicable the coverage they give these car chases - all it does is glorify the joy riders in an effort to give viewers of news programming the impression they're watching a Hollywood movie.



This really was an inevitable tragedy born out of ratings grabbing explotation - and while sympathy should be with the friends and families of the victims, I have absolutely zero sympathy for the organisations responsible.


Glad you made the distinction between the people who died and the organisation itself. Some flamebaits on other forums have been saying that the 4 people should burn in hell...
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phoenixrises
seamus21514 posted:
Well I disagree C2tv, it doesn't make sense seeing as he had no way of knowing this was going to happen. WHen I was in the US. I was in the east, and never saw police chases. It seems that it is a mainly Western/Pacific thing. The only time news interrupted tv in NY, was during a plane crash, like the one in october, or something like that, not a trivial car chase. AFAIK, I know, they don't even happen in NY.


He had no way of knowing, that is why he is being charged with "Negligent Homicide".

According to Arizona Law, the definition of such is:

A.R.S. §13-1102 "Negligent Homicide" occurs when a person commits an act of criminal negligence which causes the death of another person. "criminal negligence" means the following: with respect to the result, or to a circumstance, a person fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk the result will occur, or that the circumstance exists. The risk must be of such a nature and degree that failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation.

The person probably well know that his actions could cause an accident of some sort, helicopter or no helicopter, and that someone could die, either him, a police officer, or a bystander/
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A former member
I may understand if it was a police helicopter that crashed, but it wasent, thrill seeking local tv stations sent a crews up to follow a car chase live on tv - if that was here, there would be questions being asked, and management being sacked.
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phoenixrises
onetrickpony posted:
I may understand if it was a police helicopter that crashed, but it wasent, thrill seeking local tv stations sent a crews up to follow a car chase live on tv - if that was here, there would be questions being asked, and management being sacked.


I'm sorry, who are you to say these people are thrill-seeking?
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A former member
The news channels are not thrill seeking - what the hell are they doing then?, why are the so urgent to get the Chopper in the sky and do wall to wall on a car chase? Editorial i suppose Rolling Eyes

And who am i to say that? I'm Shaun Linden, a human of sorts entitled to voice an opinion from what i can see. Unless you can sway me into showing me that doing live coverge of a car chase is news worthy, then i stand by it.
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phoenixrises
onetrickpony posted:
The news channels are not thrill seeking - what the hell are they doing then?, why are the so urgent to get the Chopper in the sky and do wall to wall on a car chase? Editorial i suppose Rolling Eyes

And who am i to say that? I'm Shaun Linden, a human of sorts entitled to voice an opinion from what i can see. Unless you can sway me into showing me that doing live coverge of a car chase is news worthy, then i stand by it.


Helicopter just allows people to see the news from another angle, an angle that we might not be able to get on the ground. I'm sorry, but I find your opinions completely wrong. You certainly have a right to assert yours, but I have a right to say you are wrong.
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A former member
Ok thank you for respecting that. What are your views then of doing live coverge of car chases?
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phoenixrises
onetrickpony posted:
Ok thank you for respecting that. What are your views then of doing live coverge of car chases?


I believe that doing car chases in certain circumstances are justified. I do not believe covering every single car chases, but once or twice here and there are fine and completely justified. It allows another angle.

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