The Newsroom

Tory Leadership Contest

Presentation Discussion (June 2019)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
BM
BM11
BM11 posted:
Oh dear. It's going around on social media that one of the questions has some very controversial views - the BBC could be in a serious media storm come tomorrow considering the format allowed for due diligence.


Which question was that?

The Imam appears to be a supporter of the very controversial organisation known as CAGE as well as posting anti Semitic tweets.
JA
james-2001
BM11 posted:
Oh dear. It's going around on social media that one of the questions has some very controversial views - the BBC could be in a serious media storm come tomorrow considering the format allowed for due diligence.

Oh dear. This could lead to the BBC being shut down.

The BBC's been shut down about 10 times over the past week according to BM11.
JO
Joe
BM11 posted:
BM11 posted:
Oh dear. It's going around on social media that one of the questions has some very controversial views - the BBC could be in a serious media storm come tomorrow considering the format allowed for due diligence.


Which question was that?

The Imam appears to be a supporter of the very controversial organisation known as CAGE as well as posting anti Semitic tweets.

Are you able to demonstrate that with a source or even linking to the posts directly?
SL
Shaun Linden
The format was poor and Emily wasn't great at moderating it. I got more out of the Channel 4 debate than I did the BBC one last night. From a presentation point of view the titles and backdrop used during the lives looked great.
MA
Markymark
Tonight's was too short for the number of questioners, that's why Emily Maitlis had to interrupt to get through the agenda. Running for 90 mins would have been better.


With Chris Cook’s tweet pictures showing 12 or more regional contributions lined up were they seriously intending to have that many questioners ( one every five minutes)
Or were some of those images just a runner etc sat there, with no actual intention to use that feed in anger ?
RK
Rkolsen
The set was lovely, but the conduct of the debate was awful Half the time they were just squabbling. Furthermore, does that bloke Rory have piles? He seems incapable of sitting on a simple bar stool. Shocked


The whole thing was a hour of my life I’ll never get back

And the Oxford camera 🤮


I take it the vast majority of links were in SD?

If so I wonder why they couldn’t set up a ENG camera (as it’s a locked off shot and a prompter wouldn’t be necessary) and a Dirac encoder over the circuit and away you go. Unless of course the backgrounds were chromakeyed then there would be some issues as I assume they would have been done locally.
MC
mccanmat
Cat amongst the HD pigeons here- I didn’t care if the links were in SD- they could have been in black and white 405 lines for all I cared as long as we could see and hear the person asking the question. I know there’s a big love for HD on this forum but I just don’t get it- we can both see what is meant to be doing on in either version
MA
Markymark
The set was lovely, but the conduct of the debate was awful Half the time they were just squabbling. Furthermore, does that bloke Rory have piles? He seems incapable of sitting on a simple bar stool. Shocked


The whole thing was a hour of my life I’ll never get back

And the Oxford camera 🤮


I take it the vast majority of links were in SD?

If so I wonder why they couldn’t set up a ENG camera (as it’s a locked off shot and a prompter wouldn’t be necessary) and a Dirac encoder over the circuit and away you go. Unless of course the backgrounds were chromakeyed then there would be some issues as I assume they would have been done locally.


I'm told DIRAC is no longer used for contributions from the regions, they all have uncompressed HD-SDI circuits now. Goodness knows what was going on with Oxford, because the background was HD, but the camera was SD, (and very poor too). Presumably the backgrounds were keyed in locally, though possibly not ?
MA
Markymark
Cat amongst the HD pigeons here- I didn’t care if the links were in SD- they could have been in black and white 405 lines for all I cared as long as we could see and hear the person asking the question. I know there’s a big love for HD on this forum but I just don’t get it- we can both see what is meant to be doing on in either version


I'll answer in a minute, but first I'm off to use my outside toilet.....
welshkid and fusionlad gave kudos
RK
Rkolsen

The whole thing was a hour of my life I’ll never get back

And the Oxford camera 🤮


I take it the vast majority of links were in SD?

If so I wonder why they couldn’t set up a ENG camera (as it’s a locked off shot and a prompter wouldn’t be necessary) and a Dirac encoder over the circuit and away you go. Unless of course the backgrounds were chromakeyed then there would be some issues as I assume they would have been done locally.


I'm told DIRAC is no longer used for contributions from the regions, they all have uncompressed HD-SDI circuits now. Goodness knows what was going on with Oxford, because the background was HD, but the camera was SD, (and very poor too). Presumably the backgrounds were keyed in locally, though possibly not ?

I’d imagine they’d be keyed locally. I doubt the vision mixer used had enough keyers to handle all the OS at the same time.
NE
Newsroom
I feel the vitriol Maitlis is receiving is unjust and unwarranted. Look at the panel for heaven's sake. The only shred of decency on it was Rory Stewart and I'm no Tory. She battled against a gaggle of renowned Tory dodgers and as for the way Boris Johnson treated her, no wonder she felt the need to interrupt!

Let's also not forget she was THE ONLY WOMAN on the show amongst some really sexist and bigoted men.

I'm with all the other broadcasters who are standing to her defence.
BM
BM11
Joe posted:
BM11 posted:

Which question was that?

The Imam appears to be a supporter of the very controversial organisation known as CAGE as well as posting anti Semitic tweets.

Are you able to demonstrate that with a source or even linking to the posts directly?









Last edited by BM11 on 19 June 2019 10:24am

Newer posts