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The Ten O'Clock News Hour on BBC News 24

(January 2006)

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JO
johnnybegood
News24 posted:
I would envisage Peter Dobbie starting earlier to do the 22:30 onwards - after all, with HardTalk at 23:30 and WBR at 00:30, if he started at 23:00 that's only two full half hours of news, and he currently does 3. If he was on from 22:30 then he'd be working the same amount as he currently is. It would be nice to see more of him (see my comments in the N24 thread a couple of days ago)

If Jane & Chris wrap it up for the night at 22:00, then all of the N24 presenter shifts will be 3 hours long, (with the exception of the 09.00 - 13.00), so it makes things a bit more uniform for the channel's organisation.

Obviously there would be tweaks to the national graphics etc to fit in with the N24 tower and ticker; I would imagine these changes would affect the 1 and 6 too, so they all look the same to the BBC 1 viewers.


You know I very much doubt Peter Dobbie will be on from 10.30. If it's gonna be in the National Studio then he would have to get to the News 24 studio by the top of the hour! Something does tell me Huw will be doing it - especially after the reports about BBC One newsreaders appearing on News 24, with Peter doing his normal 2300-0100 shift.
R2
r2ro
johnnybegood posted:
News24 posted:
I would envisage Peter Dobbie starting earlier to do the 22:30 onwards - after all, with HardTalk at 23:30 and WBR at 00:30, if he started at 23:00 that's only two full half hours of news, and he currently does 3. If he was on from 22:30 then he'd be working the same amount as he currently is. It would be nice to see more of him (see my comments in the N24 thread a couple of days ago)

If Jane & Chris wrap it up for the night at 22:00, then all of the N24 presenter shifts will be 3 hours long, (with the exception of the 09.00 - 13.00), so it makes things a bit more uniform for the channel's organisation.

Obviously there would be tweaks to the national graphics etc to fit in with the N24 tower and ticker; I would imagine these changes would affect the 1 and 6 too, so they all look the same to the BBC 1 viewers.


You know I very much doubt Peter Dobbie will be on from 10.30. If it's gonna be in the National Studio then he would have to get to the News 24 studio by the top of the hour! Something does tell me Huw will be doing it - especially after the reports about BBC One newsreaders appearing on News 24, with Peter doing his normal 2300-0100 shift.


I was led to believe we were saying that Peter Dobbie will be in the N24 studio as the Ten only lasts for its usual duration and not until 23.00 hence Peter not being in N6.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Yet another example of the ITV News Channel changing the face of rolling news channels.

It's obviously cost cutting, just like simulcasting Breakfast. Who is going to tune into BBC News 24 to watch the Ten O'Clock News!
LO
LONDON
johnnybegood posted:
News24 posted:
I would envisage Peter Dobbie starting earlier to do the 22:30 onwards - after all, with HardTalk at 23:30 and WBR at 00:30, if he started at 23:00 that's only two full half hours of news, and he currently does 3. If he was on from 22:30 then he'd be working the same amount as he currently is. It would be nice to see more of him (see my comments in the N24 thread a couple of days ago)

If Jane & Chris wrap it up for the night at 22:00, then all of the N24 presenter shifts will be 3 hours long, (with the exception of the 09.00 - 13.00), so it makes things a bit more uniform for the channel's organisation.

Obviously there would be tweaks to the national graphics etc to fit in with the N24 tower and ticker; I would imagine these changes would affect the 1 and 6 too, so they all look the same to the BBC 1 viewers.


You know I very much doubt Peter Dobbie will be on from 10.30. If it's gonna be in the National Studio then he would have to get to the News 24 studio by the top of the hour! Something does tell me Huw will be doing it - especially after the reports about BBC One newsreaders appearing on News 24, with Peter doing his normal 2300-0100 shift.


So if you think that Huw or Fiona would continue to present on News 24 until 11, the programme could become a 10 o'clock news extra, creating opposition to the itv News at 10.30, with its extended Sports bulletin and paper review.
JO
johnnybegood
r2ro posted:
johnnybegood posted:
News24 posted:
I would envisage Peter Dobbie starting earlier to do the 22:30 onwards - after all, with HardTalk at 23:30 and WBR at 00:30, if he started at 23:00 that's only two full half hours of news, and he currently does 3. If he was on from 22:30 then he'd be working the same amount as he currently is. It would be nice to see more of him (see my comments in the N24 thread a couple of days ago)

If Jane & Chris wrap it up for the night at 22:00, then all of the N24 presenter shifts will be 3 hours long, (with the exception of the 09.00 - 13.00), so it makes things a bit more uniform for the channel's organisation.

Obviously there would be tweaks to the national graphics etc to fit in with the N24 tower and ticker; I would imagine these changes would affect the 1 and 6 too, so they all look the same to the BBC 1 viewers.


You know I very much doubt Peter Dobbie will be on from 10.30. If it's gonna be in the National Studio then he would have to get to the News 24 studio by the top of the hour! Something does tell me Huw will be doing it - especially after the reports about BBC One newsreaders appearing on News 24, with Peter doing his normal 2300-0100 shift.


I was led to believe we were saying that Peter Dobbie will be in the N24 studio as the Ten only lasts for its usual duration and not until 23.00 hence Peter not being in N6.


Well, to be honest that would just be normal News 24 coverage then. Erm, sport and newspaper review are already done on the channel - they're just changing the times!

I read it as being one hour long Ten O' Clock news programme.
Quote:
he News 24 controller, Kevin Bakhurst, said the aim was to create a dedicated hour of longer form programming on the rolling news channel between 10pm and 11pm, rounding up the day's events, and looking forward to the news agenda for the following day.


"dedicated hour of longer form programming" makes me think this. Even when the article continues:

Quote:
After the 10 O'Clock News simulcast ends at around 10.30pm, News 24 will fill the next half-hour each evening with a new line-up featuring a 10- to 12-minute sports bulletin, a newspaper review at around 10.50pm, and a preview of events happening the following day.


But, yes, it doesn't say with who or where.
NE
News24
I'm sure the way it will go will be to end the 10 with a single opt outs for everyone, the regionals and N24. Then the back half hour will be from the N24 studio with a N24 presenter rather than N6. Remember the back half hour also contains a paper review and an extended sports bulletin - N24 studio lends itself to this, and it would mean Peter Dobbie can stay in the chair right up to 01.00 if he wants! At the end of the 10 they'd do the usual "on News 24 now you can watch a more comprehensive...bla bla bla"

Alternative scenario is that the entire hour is done by Huw in N6. It could work, but the regional opt would be messy., and N6 doesn't exactly appeal for the sport and papers to be done in an efficient manner.

re: DVBCornwall's comment - WBR will be shown at 00:30 instead of 22:30.
JA
jamesmd
Andrew posted:
Yet another example of the ITV News Channel changing the face of rolling news channels.

It's obviously cost cutting, just like simulcasting Breakfast. Who is going to tune into BBC News 24 to watch the Ten O'Clock News!


Most of this forum, I think, Andrew!
JO
johnnybegood
Andrew posted:
Yet another example of the ITV News Channel changing the face of rolling news channels.

It's obviously cost cutting, just like simulcasting Breakfast. Who is going to tune into BBC News 24 to watch the Ten O'Clock News!


And, to be honest, another very pro-ITV sentiment from you.
TW
Time Warp
Andrew posted:
Yet another example of the ITV News Channel changing the face of rolling news channels.

It's obviously cost cutting, just like simulcasting Breakfast. Who is going to tune into BBC News 24 to watch the Ten O'Clock News!


Exactly. As I've said before, just as News 24 becomes the BBC's priority, it cuts one of its own bulletins in favour of a Network simulcast! Ridiculous.
MA
Matrix
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Although I can see this working as an hour of news (in depth) and having a simular breif it could work, I would strongly argue there is case that the two (Network and N24) cannot share all bulletins.
The 1 O'Clock News is primetime for breaking news and for N24's committment as a "rolling news channel" it would be wholy inapprioate to have to stick to a set structure. The 6 simualry, it would be stupid to have this on N24 purely due to N24 Tonight been broadcast an hour later and the "nature" of the bulletins.
I also worry that this move is very reminiscent of the "appointment to view" scheme which is working so wonderfully for Sky.
PH
phil-g
Doesnt this just smack of a Sky News rip off? News 24 are winning the battle of the rolling news channels at the moment, so why change? They brought in News 24 Tonight, just before Sky launched the flagship The Sky Report; now they are showing a dedicated News at Ten show, followed by a sports round up (eg. Sky's Sportsline), and their 11pm show smacks of Sky News Tonight's look ahead to the days news in the Press Preview.
JA
jamesmd
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I wonder whether we'll see a return of UK Today for the 22:26 regionals!

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