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RK
Rkolsen World News

A lot of stations use backpacks but most use ENG and the band plan as described there is mostly the same (however wireless companies and WiFi device manufacturers are trying to get that spectrum).


What do you mean by ENG in the US context?

In the UK ENG = Electronic News Gathering - and means either :

1. Shoot on video not film (!) - that's where the phrase originally came from. ("TVS switched from film to ENG in the early 80s'") In this context it's pronounced EE-EN-JEE

2. Shoot an interview separately to a down-the-line interview ("Can you ENG him after he's done the down-the-line please?") (i.e. shoot him answering similar questions, but not looking directly to camera). When used as a verb it's pronounced "ENJ".

Are you using ENG to mean 'digital microwave' as opposed to bonded cellular?

The shoot on video, digital microwave term. Bonded Cellular afaik stations just say LiveU, Dejero, TVU etc.
Don’t let anyone treat you like you’re a VO/SOT when you’re a PKG.
MO
Mouseboy33
KFOR 4 Oklahoma City Pilot rescues person drowning in the Canadian River. Wow!
https://t.co/CHVoPRw6fo
I'm here to give you something to talk about! You're Welcome.
https://youtu.be/1g18oiI2WIU
WH
what West Country (East) Points West
KFOR 4 Oklahoma City Pilot rescues person drowning in the Canadian River. Wow!
https://t.co/CHVoPRw6fo

Erm...that’s an article on systemic racism.
BA
bilky asko Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
what posted:
KFOR 4 Oklahoma City Pilot rescues person drowning in the Canadian River. Wow!
https://t.co/CHVoPRw6fo

Erm...that’s an article on systemic racism.



Here is the article (unavailable without a VPN because of the silly GDPR block)

Quote:
POTTAWATOMIE COUNTY, Okla. (KFOR) – KFOR Chopper Four Pilot Mason Dunn and Managing Editor Steve Johnson helped save a man stranded in the North Canadian River Thursday afternoon.

David Stokes says he was separated from his friends during a float trip. With only one leg, he didn’t have the strength to swim to shore.

“That was it. That was it. That was everything I had left in me,” said Stokes, who had been stranded for more than 20 hours.

Chopper Four was already in the air, responding to different breaking news event when Dunn and Johnson got a call to action. Police told them someone was being searched for.

“Someone might be in the river, that they were looking for someone who was missing,” said Dunn.

Dunn and Johnson made their way down the river until they spotted Stokes, who was struggling to stay afloat.

“Keep my head above the water and that was it, I heard you. I heard you and I was hoping you saw me,” said Stokes.

Dunn landed the helicopter in a nearby sand bank. Johnson says he didn’t think twice and jumped out as soon as it was safe.

“I ran out of the chopper, dragged him up to the shore line,” said Johnson.

But Johnson and Dunn say the struggle didn’t end there. The area they found Stokes was so remote that the Pottawatomie Sheriff’s Department and Shawnee Search and Rescue crews couldn’t find it after all night of searching.

“I had to lift off there and fly to the airport and pick up the sheriff and take him down there,” said Dunn.

Finally, more help arrived and Stokes was airlifted to an Oklahoma City hospital.

“Without your helicopter, knowing that you guys were landing, I wasn’t swimming into the bank,” said Stokes.

KFOR’s crew arrived back at the station weary, but more grateful than ever.

“It just gave me chills looking out for you. That’s our motto and that means something to me,” said Dunn.

“I would do that again in a heartbeat; I’m so thankful,” said Johnson.

Stokes is expected to make a full recovery.

Avatar Credit: © Independent Television News. Avatar Subject: Jonathan George Snow HonFRIBA

39 days later

MO
Mouseboy33
BREAKING: KNBC Chopper smoking. Several news choppers covering a police chase over LA. Hope everything will be ok.


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https://youtu.be/1g18oiI2WIU
NG
noggin Founding member
The shoot on video, digital microwave term. Bonded Cellular afaik stations just say LiveU, Dejero, TVU etc.


Ah - the term ENG is never really used for digital microwave here. News broadcasters here seldom use digital microwave for final leg backhaul, that's really only used for non-news sport and entertainment shows who want 60Mbs+ links with low latency.

Of course microwave COFDM links are used for RF cameras (and helicopters etc.) - and some broadcasters in Europe have COFDM receive meshes in larger cities that allow RF cameras to be used live without support vehicles (or just a bike or car repeater) around the city. (The BBC have, or had, a set-up like that in parts of London and a 'News Bike' which is a motorbike which travels with an RF camera to set-up single camera live injects)

SNG is used to mean satellite though (though less used if it's VSAT IP rather than DVB Ku band).
SP
Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Was there a term used for analogue microwave links? I guess until SNG and fibre came along they didn't need a term to distinguish it and it was just links (eg "there's a links truck providing a midpoint") or OB?

I know FRV (Fast Response Vehicle) was used in some news contexts.
Write that down in your copybook now.
CO
commseng London London
Was there a term used for analogue microwave links? I guess until SNG and fibre came along they didn't need a term to distinguish it and it was just links (eg "there's a links truck providing a midpoint") or OB?

I know FRV (Fast Response Vehicle) was used in some news contexts.

Yes, the term was "links" as opposed to "lines".
RK
Rkolsen World News
Was there a term used for analogue microwave links? I guess until SNG and fibre came along they didn't need a term to distinguish it and it was just links (eg "there's a links truck providing a midpoint") or OB?

I know FRV (Fast Response Vehicle) was used in some news contexts.


Like this one?
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Here Fox has a couple Quick Response Vehicles. There essentially a quad cab pickup with an operator seat in between the front and back seats and an in motion satellite dish that allows them to go live. They’re mainly stationed in the south and used during tornado and hurricane season. Particularly in areas where cell service may be down or limited service and them lighting up a LiveU would take up resources that a local may need to communicate.
Don’t let anyone treat you like you’re a VO/SOT when you’re a PKG.
SP
Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Not quite so agile. See page 17 of https://www.bbceng.info/additions/2017/Engineering%20Progress%20And%20Achievements%20-%201989.pdf
Write that down in your copybook now.
CO
commseng London London
That whole document was a blast from the past. The Fast Response Vehicles inevitably ended up being refered to as "Farts".....
UKnews and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos

23 days later

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aaronspence
6 Helicopters covering a gas explosion in Baltimore today... Seems overkill!

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