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TC7 after News move to Broadcasting House

(August 2007)

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MA
markstewart
Will Newsnight, Working Lunch etc still be in TC7 after the rest of News move to Broadcasting House? I only ask because it will seem strange even these shows - slightly removed from the regular news output - will be packing up and moving to BH. And what of Newsround if TC7 is no longer leased by News?
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Steve in Pudsey
Didn't Newsnight used to come from Lime Grove whilst news proper came from TV Centre at one point?
NG
noggin Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Didn't Newsnight used to come from Lime Grove whilst news proper came from TV Centre at one point?


Yes - but Newsnight was a Current Affairs programme, not a News programme. News were based at TV Centre (when they moved from Alexandra Palace in 1969 to Spur), but Current Affairs were based at Lime Grove (from earlier than 1969).

Newsnight, Breakfast Time, 60 Minutes, Nationwide (and the "regional" shows like London Plus and South East at Six) were all Current Affairs (sometimes called Topical) rather than News, and as such came from the Grove.

News and Current Affairs were merged in around 1987 - when Mr Birt arrived and "shook up" BBC journalism - with shows like Breakfast Time and Newsnight moving to TV Centre, along with their production teams. Lime Grove finally closed in the early 90s - the last show to come from there was a Late Show ISTR.
NG
noggin Founding member
markstewart posted:
Will Newsnight, Working Lunch etc still be in TC7 after the rest of News move to Broadcasting House? I only ask because it will seem strange even these shows - slightly removed from the regular news output - will be packing up and moving to BH. And what of Newsround if TC7 is no longer leased by News?


I would be surprised - I'd imagine that the plans for BH include a larger and a smaller studio.

No idea what will happen to Newsround, especially given that BBC Childrens Dept who make Newsround are moving to Salford (aka "Manchester"), along with Sport and a chunk of Five Live. I guess Newsround could move to BH or Salford. By 2011-2013 when both moves are supposed to have happened, technology to share material should be more advanced, which might allow Salford to access News material at BH?

Newsround currently make a BBC One show using News facilities (editing and studio), but they make their CBBC bulletins themselves, using their own studio and editing resources (though they still have access to the material News record for these)
DD
DarkestDreams
When I was at the BBC last week, I suprised our guide by asking if she knew which departments would move to BH and when, but all she could tell me were BBC staff rumours which currently are that the move is definitely taking place in 5-6 years and that most TV news will stay in London but some news/documentary programs (so I assume she meant things like newsnight etc) would most probably be moving to Manchester.
Just thought you would like to know Very Happy
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markstewart
It's going to end up being a bit of an own goal isn't it. They're trying to stop everything being London centric so what do they do - move 2 huge departments up to Manchester. No doubt other BBC departments, ITV and indies will follow them up at some stage as the north becomes 'the place to be' and then everyone will complain about London having hardly any TV programmes - it is our capital city after all! Oh yes, mission acomplished Rolling Eyes
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nwtv2003
Slightly OT but work has already started on the BBC's new site at Salford Quays, it used to be an overspill Car Park for The Lowry, but it had now been closed off and is being cleared.
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parrferris
Don't know where it's broadcast from, but Newsround also do a three-minute bulletin on BBC7 just before 8am - the station's only 'news' programme and also AFAIK the only regular live transmission, dropped into the otherwise pre-recorded content.

I'd rather the BBC was London-centric - it's a national institution and London is the capital after all - than having random chunks shipped to Manchester which I, and I'd argue a great many other people around the UK, have no connection with at all. It's funny that certain cities and regions are considered 'acceptable' by the BBC - Birmingham, Manchester, South Wales, the North East, Central Scotland - whilst others might not exist outside regional television and the odd drama. Do we hear of BBC facilities being transferred to Taunton, York, Wrexham or Aberdeen? When was the last time you heard a presenter or announcer with a Cornish , Norfolk or Gwynedd accent?
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Steve D
parrferris posted:
When was the last time you heard a presenter or announcer with a Cornish , Norfolk or Gwynedd accent?


Well BBC Wales have, in the recent past, had two out of the three!
MI
mizzb
parrferris posted:
Don't know where it's broadcast from, but Newsround also do a three-minute bulletin on BBC7 just before 8am - the station's only 'news' programme and also AFAIK the only regular live transmission, dropped into the otherwise pre-recorded content.

I'd rather the BBC was London-centric - it's a national institution and London is the capital after all - than having random chunks shipped to Manchester which I, and I'd argue a great many other people around the UK, have no connection with at all. It's funny that certain cities and regions are considered 'acceptable' by the BBC - Birmingham, Manchester, South Wales, the North East, Central Scotland - whilst others might not exist outside regional television and the odd drama. Do we hear of BBC facilities being transferred to Taunton, York, Wrexham or Aberdeen? When was the last time you heard a presenter or announcer with a Cornish , Norfolk or Gwynedd accent?


Where's huw edwards from then?

I'm uncertain over the move of the kids tv away from London but it's worth trying it so we get to see what the results are. I think this country is too focused on London and it gives us little in return for the size of it.
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parrferris
According to the BBC website, Huw Edwards is from Llangennech, near Llanelli. As I said, South Wales accents seem acceptable on national TV and radio.

Nice to hear that BBC Wales still features some local accents though - since Craig Rich retired the only regional accent to be found at BBC Plymouth is Scots! As for national broadcasters, I haven't heard my native Devonian since Bill Giles and David Vine both retired.
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seamus
Isn't Sian Williams from outside of Llanelli also?

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