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General discussion of Westcountry News/Spotlight (February 2006)

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DE
deejay
mizzb posted:
A few questions about that pic.

What is that piece of equipment ?
How old is it roughly ?

Does that clock section of it look like the face of a slightly surprised baby ?
Wink


What is it?
It's a VT Clock for use in Studios. These used to be commonplace before computer generated VT Clocks. They would be stood on a caption stand in the studio and a camera pointed at them. On it would be scrawled what item was being prerecorded. It would literally be recorded by the camera through the desk until -3", when the vision mixer would cut to black instead, then the item would start. When instant start VTRs became used, News often dispensed with the 3" of black, staying with the clock right up to 0. A prerec would be parked on the last frame of the clock so that the gallery could see what was in the gate. I imagine Spotlight's vision mixer cut to the VT before it had started running. It's an extremely antiquated way of working and I'm staggered that Plymouth still use it! There cannot be many of these clocks left in existance in the BBC. Some are attached to one side of line up trollies (with greyscale, colour girl and possibly a testcard on the other sides), but I've only seen one in recent years.

How old is it?
Couldn't say for definite - at least 20 years old I imagine. Older examples were blackboard/chalk style.
MI
mizzb
Thanks for the answers to my Q's , an old VT clock , how quaint . Smile
BS
brotherton sands
StuartPlymouth posted:
Another thing that has bugged me for ages though, is whether that CSO screen used for the weather and interviews actually moves around (I think there is a hinge of sorts on the right hand side). I finally got two caps to prove my theory (YES, OK it's rather sad I know to be obsessed with this).

This pic shows the view from the main desk, the two blue lines I have lined up against the pattern of the laminate flooring and the bottom of the CSO screen (the arrow indicates another point to watch):

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/one.jpg

This shows the different angle (although slight from the distance) between the laminate and the CSO screen from the other angle. I also suspect that this "fixed/locked-off" camera position has a mask of "laminate" covering an area on the right where the red carpet from the main desk would be seen. Also look at the difference where the arrow was in the first pic:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/two2.jpg


Yes, that red section of wall that your blue arrow is pointing at definately looks wider in the 2nd pic. All a bit bizarre. Confused

15 days later

AN
Andrew Founding member
Westcountry Live's Louise Midgeley did a report on tonight's Calendar, the story being flood hit Catcliffe in South Yorkshire and Boscastle being 'twinned' so the latter could give advice to the former
MI
mizzb
Apart from 'Dickie' on the beach at Branscombe WCN was all woman tonight.

And very enjoyable it was too. Smile
FE
Felek
mizzb posted:
Apart from 'Dickie' on the beach at Branscombe WCN was all woman tonight.

And very enjoyable it was too. Smile


Yes i Liked this change to the format to, and it included who I would class as 3 'main' presenters.

But the point where studio haded over to Richard then him talking and handing back to Kate in the studio seemed a little strange

18 days later

MS
Mr-Stabby
Unusual thing tonight. Spotlight actually advertised for 2 jobs on the bulletin tonight, has anyone ever done that before on BBC? I know some of the commercial lot used to do it back in the day.
DV
DVB Cornwall
What were the jobs for?

45 days later

PA
parrferris
Was any mention made of the proposed regional merger on Westcountry Live last night? Certainly there no mention on the late bulletin. Seems odd when Lookaround made it a major story in the Border region (as shown on ITV News) - and Spotlight covered the story complete with behind-the-scenes footage of the studio at Langage.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Report here.
TV
tvarksouthwest
SInce this morning Spotlight bulletins have been available on analogue but digital viewers have been getting London news. Victoria Graham has just explained this is because of a fault with the networking company, Cable & Wireless.

In other words, another outsourcing debacle shafts the viewers.
GC
GaryC
tvarksouthwest posted:
SInce this morning Spotlight bulletins have been available on analogue but digital viewers have been getting London news. Victoria Graham has just explained this is because of a fault with the networking company, Cable & Wireless.

In other words, another outsourcing debacle shafts the viewers.


you really are sliding into the madhouse.

The complex communications connections that broadcasters use have ALWAYS been run by a specialist provider since the birth of television. From the Post Office vision circuits, through to BT and now with open markets and open standards any IP data provider.

The BBC never has and never will be 100% in control of its distribution network. so out sourcing is not, never has or will be an issue.

You really need to stop viewing everthing as some dramatic distater, impeding doom and daily mail 'going to hell in a handcart'

How the hell is a minor technical issue with 99.95% reliable technical equipment that prevented a few minutes of local news going out 'shafting' viewers?? Mental.

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