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STV News

(January 2011)

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BR
Barney Rubble
As it been said before North set never been touch, the east set NEED to be touched, its very unclear when this might happen. Which Studio is Scotland tonight coming from? Studio 1 opposite Stv news or Studio 2?


Given 'The Hour' was booted out of studio 1 I guess that's where the new set has been built? I would also guess it's the only one big enough for John McKays ego?
GM
Gary McEwan
As it been said before North set never been touch, the east set NEED to be touched, its very unclear when this might happen. Which Studio is Scotland tonight coming from? Studio 1 opposite Stv news or Studio 2?


Given 'The Hour' was booted out of studio 1 I guess that's where the new set has been built?


The 8pm Hour was in a different studio altogether. It's the 5pm Hour set.
:-(
A former member
As it been said before North set never been touch, the east set NEED to be touched, its very unclear when this might happen. Which Studio is Scotland tonight coming from? Studio 1 opposite Stv news or Studio 2?


Given 'The Hour' was booted out of studio 1 I guess that's where the new set has been built?


The 8pm Hour was in a different studio altogether. It's the 5pm Hour set.


there was talk it was in the BBC? Im sure the 8pm hour was in studio two.
GM
Gary McEwan
As it been said before North set never been touch, the east set NEED to be touched, its very unclear when this might happen. Which Studio is Scotland tonight coming from? Studio 1 opposite Stv news or Studio 2?


Given 'The Hour' was booted out of studio 1 I guess that's where the new set has been built?


The 8pm Hour was in a different studio altogether. It's the 5pm Hour set.


there was talk it was in the BBC? Im sure the 8pm hour was in studio two.


Nah definitely coming from the 5pm Hour studio. Think it was Gordon Chree that said it was coming from there.
BR
Barney Rubble
As it been said before North set never been touch, the east set NEED to be touched, its very unclear when this might happen. Which Studio is Scotland tonight coming from? Studio 1 opposite Stv news or Studio 2?


Given 'The Hour' was booted out of studio 1 I guess that's where the new set has been built?


The 8pm Hour was in a different studio altogether. It's the 5pm Hour set.


Yep as I said.....booted out of studio 1....they then went to studio 2??
RO
rob Founding member
Screenshots from the first show online at TV Live
KP
KelpieP0921
Just watched bits the of last nights programme this afo that i recorded. I quite like it. Love the theme music and content. Back in Glasgow now will defo watch in full later.

Only couple of gripes I have is the World/globe on titles doesn't make any sense. Also the 5 things for tomorrow puzzles me. You have two main topics of Trump and Libya with opt in the middle and then 30 secs to fill at the end with some movie story and sport story. bit random!
BR
Barney Rubble
Just watched bits the of last nights programme this afo that i recorded. I quite like it. Love the theme music and content. Back in Glasgow now will defo watch in full later.

Only couple of gripes I have is the World/globe on titles doesn't make any sense. Also the 5 things for tomorrow puzzles me. You have two main topics of Trump and Libya with opt in the middle and then 30 secs to fill at the end with some movie story and sport story. bit random!


I felt that too.....serious news stories (although the Trump item was quite poor......John never really pushed him) and then that daft 5 items thing at the end. Not too sure about the sofas and the chair reminds me of Jim'll fix it??!! Razz
SC
scottishtv Founding member
that daft 5 items thing at the end

What's worse is that after that "5 things tomorrow", they seem to close the show by saying. "We're back tomorrow, but before we go here's one last thing ." The closing credits roll with some footage of some unmentioned-until-now world event being shown on the screen. FFS, don't patronise me with your 'one last thing' feature. Reminds me of when Trevor Macdonald used to leave us with "the main images of the day" at the end of the ITV Nightly News. It was forced and tacky.

I have to say, I think the content is okay on this from what I've seen, but the sofas and chairs are a bit bulky and odd. The news in the middle is a little disruptive and could distract from the flow - esp if they were to dedicate the full 30 mins to a big story at some point in the future.

Finally, having Sean with weather at 10.30pm is just childish. The ITV National Weather clearly belongs there after the national news. Shunting this to 11pm and sticking Sean in at 10.30pm is yet another silly little dig back at ITV plc (along with URL chopping on programme credit sequences etc).

I like the look and feel of STV, but I do worry a little about the station. It seems to be taking on quite a nationalist (with a small 'n', for now at least) streak.
KN
knack
that daft 5 items thing at the end

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Finally, having Sean with weather at 10.30pm is just childish. The ITV National Weather clearly belongs there after the national news. Shunting this to 11pm and sticking Sean in at 10.30pm is yet another silly little dig back at ITV plc (along with URL chopping on programme credit sequences etc).
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I haven't seen this yet but the ITV National Weather (after News at Ten at least) isn't the most in depth forecast ever. The idea of having STV weather seems good to me.
BR
Barney Rubble
that daft 5 items thing at the end

What's worse is that after that "5 things tomorrow", they seem to close the show by saying. "We're back tomorrow, but before we go here's one last thing ." The closing credits roll with some footage of some unmentioned-until-now world event being shown on the screen. FFS, don't patronise me with your 'one last thing' feature. Reminds me of when Trevor Macdonald used to leave us with "the main images of the day" at the end of the ITV Nightly News. It was forced and tacky.

I have to say, I think the content is okay on this from what I've seen, but the sofas and chairs are a bit bulky and odd. The news in the middle is a little disruptive and could distract from the flow - esp if they were to dedicate the full 30 mins to a big story at some point in the future.

Finally, having Sean with weather at 10.30pm is just childish. The ITV National Weather clearly belongs there after the national news. Shunting this to 11pm and sticking Sean in at 10.30pm is yet another silly little dig back at ITV plc (along with URL chopping on programme credit sequences etc).

I like the look and feel of STV, but I do worry a little about the station. It seems to be taking on quite a nationalist (with a small 'n', for now at least) streak.


Agree 100% with everything here......maybe the news from the regions should be first after a "here is whats coming up tonight"?
PC
p_c_u_k
Well it ain't perfect, but it's a lot better than I expected, and more importantly I'm beginning to see a logic as to why it exists.

Last night's episode was a template for how the show should work. Intelligent, agenda-setting but populist. The First Minister gave quite a few good lines, although the lack of challenging meant a lot flew straight over my head until they were repeated by the Twitter feed. It made a change from the enforced barracking of Newsnight Scotland, however. The Miss World segment, however, was a real eye-opener - the nearest a discussion has come to an argument on the Big Brother sofa, but in all the right ways. The perfect booking made sure it was a talker long after the show came off air, simply because the two older women lost what should have been an easy moral high ground by sneering and being continually patronising, and the model involved was a very articulate defender of her case. And it wasn't a happy accident, they knew they were on to something. There was some excellent direction, particularly one part where a camera crept up right in the middle of a heated argument. The elder ladies - both of whom would have talked for Britain if they hadn't been interrupted - were just controlled enough by the presenter to ensure they were given enough rope to hang themselves but didn't overwhelm the discussion.

So an agenda-setting lead and a populist talker - ideal for a commerical station.

The show has some clear restrictions to deal with. It has to involve the Scottish weather at some point as a separate entity, as its sponsored. However it also has to show the national weather (presumably, this is an ITV network deal). That's repetitive enough, but weather also appears at the end of the regional opt, presumably so that if one region is running light, they can hold on that freeze frame until the time comes to return. They could do with an alternative to that.

Regional news has to be included - indeed, it's the only part of the entire programme which must be provided by STV, and you get the feeling STV would rather do without it and make itself a single Scotland-wide programme. It's incorporated well enough I suppose. It may have a more logical home at the start of the programme, after a brief introduction of what's coming up, but I can see why they would want to get straight into the nitty-gritty of their big interview. (Incidentally, is it just me or did Kelly-Ann Bishop have a mega-makeover between episode one and two? Not to say she's ever been hard on the eyes, but last night - Shocked I mean that as a compliment, and I'm well placed to judged beauty, being Brad Pitt myself, obviously...)

It goes without saying the 'one last thing' and '5 things' at the end are badly done, but it's early days, they'll adjust or get rid of those. One last thing should be dropped, 5 things would be better if it was actual agenda-setting stories in Scotland to look out for tomorrow, rather than what it currently sounds like, random stuff off the PA newswire.

It's also beginning to differentiate itself. At first when I saw the station's "We Didn't Start The Fire" style promo for the show I just felt it was absolutely incredibly crass. After seeing it a couple of times I grew to love it, in a sort of so bad it's good way. It differentiates itself from Newsnight Scotland by having a sense of humour about itself.

The major problem I had with the show is I didn't see why STV was doing it. They're a commercial station, they exist to get ratings, even if a current affairs show did get higher ratings than what the ITV network was offering (unlikely) it would cost more to produce.

I'm beginning to wonder if STV is positioning itself for independence or devo max, some future where broadcasting is devolved - indeed, this article appeared yesterday - http://news.stv.tv/politics/276222-call-for-devolution-of-broadcasting-powers/. By sitting back and doing nothing, STV is awaiting takeover by ITV PLC, because if it simply rebroadcasts ITV1 no-one will be there to save it. While it seems inevitable ITV PLC will eventually take over STV, and that independence is still unlikely, it seems they ain't going without a fight. In an independent Scotland you can imagine a Scottish Broadcasting Corporation and STV running side-by-side, like CBC and CTV in Canada. And by providing a high level of news and current affairs, and Scottish programming without throwing away the network baby with the bathwater (ie Downton Abbey) will help to win the opinion formers they need.

I have to say I watched STV for most of last night - the Scotland's Greatest Albums just managing to be enough of a talker and not a muso-dominated borefest - and I wouldn't normally. I don't know if that's good news commercially for STV as I suspect I'm not target audience, and STV at times is coming across as a Scottish Channel 4. But if the gameplan is to win over politicians with an eye to the future, I'm beginning to see what they're doing. Assuming it's all in budget and not costing far too much, of course.

In dreamland? What would really work is a poach for a big BBC Scotland show. Can we have Still Game back please? Laughing (I did say dreamland)

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