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Gavin Scott8,284 posts since 23 Mar 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
This is fantastic news. Really flies in the face of what the homogenised ITVplc are doing.

John says they're building a larger studio in Edinburgh for the new full show based there.

Can't wait to see it - although I'll miss seeing John McKay if he continues with Glasgow - as he undoubtedly will.
Markymark4,774 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
This is fantastic news. Really flies in the face of what the homogenised ITVplc are doing.

John says they're building a larger studio in Edinburgh for the new full show based there.

Can't wait to see it - although I'll miss seeing John McKay if he continues with Glasgow - as he undoubtedly will.


What will STV do about Edinburgh ? Many folk in the city use Black Hill, that will of course carry the 'West' programme. Currently the East opt is only for a portion of the programme, but under this new scheme the West version will need to carry Edinburgh related items.

The problem won't exist with Sky and Freesat platforms, thanks to the miracle of postcode mapping. I suppose it's possible that the STV/4 Freeview mux from Black Hill could carry both versions of STV, but only at the expense of something else and/or picture quality.
Gavin Scott8,284 posts since 23 Mar 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
This is fantastic news. Really flies in the face of what the homogenised ITVplc are doing.

John says they're building a larger studio in Edinburgh for the new full show based there.

Can't wait to see it - although I'll miss seeing John McKay if he continues with Glasgow - as he undoubtedly will.


What will STV do about Edinburgh ? Many folk in the city use Black Hill, that will of course carry the 'West' programme. Currently the East opt is only for a portion of the programme, but under this new scheme the West version will need to carry Edinburgh related items.

The problem won't exist with Sky and Freesat platforms, thanks to the miracle of postcode mapping. I suppose it's possible that the STV/4 Freeview mux from Black Hill could carry both versions of STV, but only at the expense of something else and/or picture quality.


My family homestead was West Lothian, but we used Burntisland in Fife (albeit with a 6ft aerial mast) because the signal was much stronger, and I think it was first to carry Channel 4.

This seems to be a pilot scheme, so I guess we'll find out soon enough what the teething trouble is - but Black Hill does seem a along way from the Lothians when Burntisland is in line of sight directly over the Firth of Forth.
STV Today1,245 posts since 20 Mar 2005
STV North Reporting Scotland
Sounds very interesting - though I do have to confess to being a little confused about the detail.

My take on this is that -
* there will be two 30 minute bulletins at 6pm - one from Glasgow the other from Edinburgh
* STV North will continue to have the Aberdeen based 30 minute bulletin with current bulletin opt outs
* John McKay will present the Glasgow edition
* TBA presenter to present the Edinburgh edition

I realise this is a pilot and has a lot of potential.

I also wonder if there will every be some form of bulletin from Inverness now - I mean they have not made any effort to do this and this development means money will be placed elsewhere. Surely, a Highland and Islands bulletin would be a good idea and I remain hopeful this is something that may crop up.

I also wonder if they will now ditch some ITN - STV news project. I admit to being out of touch with all this but do recall some rumours about some sort of evening news programme for international, national and regional news. This was to be shown across the STV network.

All exciting though and who know what will happen next...
Markymark4,774 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
This is fantastic news. Really flies in the face of what the homogenised ITVplc are doing.

John says they're building a larger studio in Edinburgh for the new full show based there.

Can't wait to see it - although I'll miss seeing John McKay if he continues with Glasgow - as he undoubtedly will.


What will STV do about Edinburgh ? Many folk in the city use Black Hill, that will of course carry the 'West' programme. Currently the East opt is only for a portion of the programme, but under this new scheme the West version will need to carry Edinburgh related items.

The problem won't exist with Sky and Freesat platforms, thanks to the miracle of postcode mapping. I suppose it's possible that the STV/4 Freeview mux from Black Hill could carry both versions of STV, but only at the expense of something else and/or picture quality.


My family homestead was West Lothian, but we used Burntisland in Fife (albeit with a 6ft aerial mast) because the signal was much stronger, and I think it was first to carry Channel 4.

This seems to be a pilot scheme, so I guess we'll find out soon enough what the teething trouble is - but Black Hill does seem a along way from the Lothians when Burntisland is in line of sight directly over the Firth of Forth.


The problem is the west side of Edinburgh, it's screened off by a hill from Craigkelly (or as you refer to it, Burntisland). Most of the aerials as you come into the city from the west are directed at Black Hill, and also in the areas south of the castle for obvious reasons !

There's also an historical reason, Black Hill pre dates Craigkelly for BBC2/625/colour by a few years, so many early 625 adopters will still be using Black Hill, despite Craigkelly now being a better option.

The problem's not unique to sub regional news, Meridian came unstuck when they launched their Thames Valley region, and had to build some relays to restore Mr Dinenage to many South Hampshire viewers Smile
Gavin Scott8,284 posts since 23 Mar 2001
STV Central Reporting Scotland
The problem is the west side of Edinburgh, it's screened off by a hill from Craigkelly (or as you refer to it, Burntisland). Most of the aerials as you come into the city from the west are directed at Black Hill, and also in the areas south of the castle for obvious reasons !


So you've been in my city then? Come away in. Ye'll have had yer tea?

Presumably there would be some information to the viewers about receiving the right version - even if it does involve waggling your aerial.

We're just getting the "digital switchover is imminent" ads now on the radio, so now would be a good time to start a campaign about retuning.

And for folk on the Southside - meh. they have tatty net curtains, I wouldn't be worried what they think. Wink
Markymark4,774 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
The problem is the west side of Edinburgh, it's screened off by a hill from Craigkelly (or as you refer to it, Burntisland). Most of the aerials as you come into the city from the west are directed at Black Hill, and also in the areas south of the castle for obvious reasons !


So you've been in my city then? Come away in. Ye'll have had yer tea?


Oh, yes, myself and Mrs Markymark had a very nice five day break up there a couple of years ago. Excellent trip.
Ant3,437 posts since 11 Mar 2003
STV Central Reporting Scotland
I have mixed feelings about this, really. I'm quite happy with the current situation - the five minute bulletin half way through covers the (very) local news pretty well. Saying that, it would be nice to get less stories from the west but to go to all this effort seems a little over the top.

Plus, I'd miss John MacKay too. A full bulletin by Suzi Mair just wouldn't be the same.
Markymark4,774 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Are STV planning to put the east opt on Sky/Freesat? Currently they have a slot which is currently airing the +1 service (which isn't on the EPG) which could be used.


The stream has been there for years I think, but I recall all the different STV streams are labelled simply 'STV' on the EPG data so it's hard to tell. Take a look at t/p 54 here:-

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html