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scottishtv Founding member
So, time for my comments.

I like it all very much. Looks very professional and John really has authority being behind the desk. He used to look very cramped and awkward on the wee sofa they had in the last studio. Feels like he's a real 'anchor' to the show now.

Like the camera angles, interesting opening - very refreshing and quite dramatic. I do have to say I really like this whole look, seems a lot more thought through and well structured.

Minor niggles:

Most of these are personal views and not the fault of the presentation at all. I think the reason I seldom really watch Scotland Today is the fact that John, Louise and Dave Cowan are the only very good presenters/reporters.

I don't want to start a rant on Stephen Jardine but I think he is terrible. His report tonight was full of bias and he uses such emotive language all the time. He messed up the link by not answering the question John asked him at the top of the show, and just went into some pre-prepared link he had made up, repeating again that he was "live" - 3rd time within the minute we were told this. Plus, he's so full of opinions, and frankly looks a bit weird - he's just not got the calibre for presenting national news.

Talking of bizarre guys, Raman isn't much better. He'll chat away on the handover to the sport then begin shouting as soon as he starts presenting. He also talks so slowly and puts so much false emphasis into his voice it's like he's talking to a 3 year old, VERY LOUDLY. And as for Bernard Ponsonby, well, he's very shouty and condescending too - full of clichés, and frankly dead wood.

That all sounds very harsh, but the other presenters (and most reporters) are excellent, with some of the younger ones coming along well. It's no longer the technical standards, but I think it's some of the team that are letting the show down a bit now.

Also, at the end it feels quite disjointed as John hands to the unknown weather girl (?), who we see in shot for about 15 seconds, then it cuts to the weather sting, the ad promo, the weather, the ad promo, the sting, back to John for goodbye, then the 'stv.tv' slide and v/o, then back to a closing shot of the studio, then stv endcap, then a sponsor message, then the pollen news, then the sponsor message, then 'Talking Scotland' segment - you get the drift. Needs to be a bit more joined up I think - I thought the weather girl was perhaps going to do the weather in-vision, but no such luck. Could Louise not perhaps do the weather?

These are minor niggles really, and looking at stv now I think the channel looks in the best shape it has for a long time (pres-wise at least). Just sort out the dodgy aspect ratios guys!
AN
Andrew Founding member


The amount of blue there makes it look like he is in a virtual studio and his chromakey has failed
JW
JamesWorldNews
scottishtv posted:
So, time for my comments.

I like it all very much. Looks very professional and John really has authority being behind the desk. He used to look very cramped and awkward on the wee sofa they had in the last studio. Feels like he's a real 'anchor' to the show now.

Like the camera angles, interesting opening - very refreshing and quite dramatic. I do have to say I really like this whole look, seems a lot more thought through and well structured.

Minor niggles:

Most of these are personal views and not the fault of the presentation at all. I think the reason I seldom really watch Scotland Today is the fact that John, Louise and Dave Cowan are the only very good presenters/reporters.

I don't want to start a rant on Stephen Jardine but I think he is terrible. His report tonight was full of bias and he uses such emotive language all the time. He messed up the link by not answering the question John asked him at the top of the show, and just went into some pre-prepared link he had made up, repeating again that he was "live" - 3rd time within the minute we were told this. Plus, he's so full of opinions, and frankly looks a bit weird - he's just not got the calibre for presenting national news.

Talking of bizarre guys, Raman isn't much better. He'll chat away on the handover to the sport then begin shouting as soon as he starts presenting. He also talks so slowly and puts so much false emphasis into his voice it's like he's talking to a 3 year old, VERY LOUDLY. And as for Bernard Ponsonby, well, he's very shouty and condescending too - full of clichés, and frankly dead wood.

That all sounds very harsh, but the other presenters (and most reporters) are excellent, with some of the younger ones coming along well. It's no longer the technical standards, but I think it's some of the team that are letting the show down a bit now.

Also, at the end it feels quite disjointed as John hands to the unknown weather girl (?), who we see in shot for about 15 seconds, then it cuts to the weather sting, the ad promo, the weather, the ad promo, the sting, back to John for goodbye, then the 'stv.tv' slide and v/o, then back to a closing shot of the studio, then stv endcap, then a sponsor message, then the pollen news, then the sponsor message, then 'Talking Scotland' segment - you get the drift. Needs to be a bit more joined up I think - I thought the weather girl was perhaps going to do the weather in-vision, but no such luck. Could Louise not perhaps do the weather?

These are minor niggles really, and looking at stv now I think the channel looks in the best shape it has for a long time (pres-wise at least). Just sort out the dodgy aspect ratios guys!


Well summed up scottishtv. Spot on the mark. I agree wholheartedly that the desk, in particular, lends some authority to the programme.

Just need a little bit of Nanjiani and it would be faultless.
KK
Killie Kingdom
scottishtv posted:
So, time for my comments.

I like it all very much. Looks very professional and John really has authority being behind the desk. He used to look very cramped and awkward on the wee sofa they had in the last studio. Feels like he's a real 'anchor' to the show now.

Like the camera angles, interesting opening - very refreshing and quite dramatic. I do have to say I really like this whole look, seems a lot more thought through and well structured.

Minor niggles:

Most of these are personal views and not the fault of the presentation at all. I think the reason I seldom really watch Scotland Today is the fact that John, Louise and Dave Cowan are the only very good presenters/reporters.

I don't want to start a rant on Stephen Jardine but I think he is terrible. His report tonight was full of bias and he uses such emotive language all the time. He messed up the link by not answering the question John asked him at the top of the show, and just went into some pre-prepared link he had made up, repeating again that he was "live" - 3rd time within the minute we were told this. Plus, he's so full of opinions, and frankly looks a bit weird - he's just not got the calibre for presenting national news.

Talking of bizarre guys, Raman isn't much better. He'll chat away on the handover to the sport then begin shouting as soon as he starts presenting. He also talks so slowly and puts so much false emphasis into his voice it's like he's talking to a 3 year old, VERY LOUDLY. And as for Bernard Ponsonby, well, he's very shouty and condescending too - full of clichés, and frankly dead wood.

That all sounds very harsh, but the other presenters (and most reporters) are excellent, with some of the younger ones coming along well. It's no longer the technical standards, but I think it's some of the team that are letting the show down a bit now.

Also, at the end it feels quite disjointed as John hands to the unknown weather girl (?), who we see in shot for about 15 seconds, then it cuts to the weather sting, the ad promo, the weather, the ad promo, the sting, back to John for goodbye, then the 'stv.tv' slide and v/o, then back to a closing shot of the studio, then stv endcap, then a sponsor message, then the pollen news, then the sponsor message, then 'Talking Scotland' segment - you get the drift. Needs to be a bit more joined up I think - I thought the weather girl was perhaps going to do the weather in-vision, but no such luck. Could Louise not perhaps do the weather?

These are minor niggles really, and looking at stv now I think the channel looks in the best shape it has for a long time (pres-wise at least). Just sort out the dodgy aspect ratios guys!


I agree with you Scottish TV about Stephen or Raman. Sad I've never liked them at all myself, because they just don't look or sound the part. Confused Thank god for John and Louise - the new King and Queen of Scotland Today? Wink
GM
GMc
I now feel quite sorry for Louise and Heather. It looks like they won't be as included as much, but we've only seen one day of the new format.
The 'weather girl' is a reporter, Debi Edward.

I think it would be better like this:
Lunch: Louise or Heather
Evening: John or Stephen with Louise or Heather
Late: John or Stephen

What do you guys think?
JW
JamesWorldNews
King and Queen Indeed.

I remember fondly the days when a certain lady used to be known as the Queen of Queen Margaret Drive!!

You will be far too young to remember her though, Laura.
KK
Killie Kingdom
Lunch: Heather (Louise/John to cover if Heather is off)
Teatime: John and Louise (Heather to cover if either is off)
Late: Stephen
KK
Killie Kingdom
BBC WORLD posted:
King and Queen Indeed.

I remember fondly the days when a certain lady used to be known as the Queen of Queen Margaret Drive!!

You will be far too young to remember her though, Laura.

Yeah alright, I think I went a little OTT there with the K&Q thing. Sorry James. Sad Realistically though, you just can't replace Shereen eh? John on the other hand, is really showing who's the permanent Alpha Male in the team eh? Confused I knew he'd suit the role Very Happy .

I think I may have been watching too many Big Cat Diaries Embarassed .
DB
dbl
Pros:
Errm OMG WOW!

I didn't expect that from Scotland Today, looks very professional, and the graphics look nice.

Cons

Not in Widescreen yet


And the logo looks like a copy Barclaycard, however their package made up for it.

Why couldn't STV make a logo like that for their package?
AN
Ant
dbl posted:
Not in Widescreen yet

Don't ITN tell the regions to keep it in 4:3?
DB
dbl
Antz posted:
dbl posted:
Not in Widescreen yet

Don't ITN tell the regions to keep it in 4:3?

Well UTV isn't a non-ITV plc region but is in 16:9, but don't really want to go off-topic.
SE
seamus
SCOTLAND TODAY ADDICT posted:
seamus21514 posted:
SCOTLAND TODAY ADDICT posted:
seamus21514 posted:
That is what I was saying. The set that they were usuing was probaly keyed in, like they did with N24 before the 03 relaunch.
We know.....thats what we are pointing out....hence why i said debi edward had a white line around her whole body... Rolling Eyes

I only said that because you thought I didn't know what I was talking about. SOmebody earlier said it was a projector screen, which is different.
No, someone was talking about the fact there is a new projection screen in the new design. Noone mentioned it in any other context, mate.

Sorry, was confused!

Edit:
I like the set, but the blue looks too CSOish. I do like the graphics though.

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