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Spotlight CI

(August 2005)

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Adam
Spencer For Hire posted:

IIRC, there's a shot of kids playing on a housing estate which has been used in South Today's titles that's now being used in Look North (NE&C)'s titles. I'm sure the average viewer is none the wiser though.


I think that shot you talk about was in the old titles. Can't find any shots like that in either of the current 6.30 titles.
ST
Stuart
Mr-Stabby posted:
Stuart, perhaps you'd know the answer to this.

Do Plymouth get the Channel Island news too? Because you always hear the main spotlight news team saying "And first the news for the Channel Islands with..." whoever. Was just wondering if they record that especially for CI viewers or do Plymouth viewers get it too.


No, we don't get to see any CI news on the mainland version. The introduction for Spotlight CI is recorded and played back at 6.30 while they are doing the "standard" intro for the Plymouth edition.

However, if anything major happens in the CIs Shocked it is included in the mainland edition.

EDIT: Embarassed Ooops, that will teach me to read on before answering a question - half a dozen had already replied! Sorry for the duplication.
LE
leftofmiddle
Quote:
Fair point, sir - but it wouldn't take that much to get the director and gallery PA in at 5pm for a couple of days to try out these new things rather than trying them out on air.


The same team of VJs that research, film, edit and voice the pieces also direct, present and produce the bulletin so they really don't have time to try new things unless they do it over the weekend.
NG
noggin Founding member
Hatton Cross posted:
noggin posted:

Yes - though at the staffing levels some current operations run at you may not actually have the time, money or staff for off-air technical rehearsals.


Fair point, sir - but it wouldn't take that much to get the director and gallery PA in at 5pm for a couple of days to try out these new things rather than trying them out on air.


Ha Ha - PA??? Which planet do you live on? Many galleries now rely on the programme producer to also PA (assisted with some automation and ENPS), and the director is usually vision mixing as well as directing, possibly operating graphics kit, and also driving the server/ VT replay system, and in some cases doing sound as well.

Unless they double crew - they're probably busy making the programme at 5pm. (Wouldn't surprise me if the director was also doing graphics, picture editing, or reporting in an operation like Jersey)

The days of a PA and a Director sitting in a newsroom all day and just wafting in to direct a bulletin for an hour are well and truly over in most areas.
HC
Hatton Cross
OK - I surrender.... Wink

I saw to bods in the control room on the BBC Jersey WIL site and played that dangerous 'assume what those two people do' card.

I now accept there is no time to rehearse, play around with the equipment, experiment, eat, drink, be merry or excede breathing over the recommended NUJ/BECTU quotas in the hours before the Spotlight opt. Cool
NG
noggin Founding member
Hatton Cross posted:
OK - I surrender.... Wink

I saw to bods in the control room on the BBC Jersey WIL site and played that dangerous 'assume what those two people do' card.

I now accept there is no time to rehearse, play around with the equipment, experiment, eat, drink, be merry or excede breathing over the recommended NUJ/BECTU quotas in the hours before the Spotlight opt. Cool


Ah - assumption is a dangerous thing. If the gallery is a 2 person operation (which is one more than many regional breakfast operations these days - which are often just a presenter and a director, with a support engineer on-site to keep the radio and TV operations on-air...) it is likely that one person is directing, vision and sound mixing, running VTs with the other person producing, but also timing the bulletin and operating graphics equipment. Both will probably have other jobs prior to transmission - well the producer will be producing the opt I would imagine!
LE
leftofmiddle
The only reason there were two people in the photo is because it was the first opt from the studio and one of the other VJs who wasn't actually working had popped in to see what was happening.

49 days later

JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Some opting problems tonight on BBC1 SW/BBC1 CI - I don't know whether they affected the analogue output, but on Sky BBC1 SW was showing BBC1 CI pictures briefly with BBC1 SW sound - and BBC1 CI was showing BBC1 SW pictures with BBC1 SW sound - this continued for a few minutes before BBC1 CI gave up and handed back to Plymouth for the rest of the programme, but they did try the opt out again a few times during the bulletin when a "Channel Islands News follows" caption came up - an apology was given just before the end of the programme for the lack of a Channel Islands bulletin.

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