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Solo BBC Six O'Clock News from Monday

(November 2007)

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JW
JamesWindle
I have just discovered that the Six O'Clock News will be presented by George Alagiah alone from Monday with Sian Williams standing in Friday's. Apparently the move follows a re-organisation of resources after Kaplinsky's departure. So it looks as though for now at least dual headed presentation on the Six is over.

Anyone, any thoughts?
IM
its me
I think the dual headed format worked originally with George and Sophie, now however there's far too much useless and arkward banter right through the programme. Totally unsuitable.

George seems to work better solo too.
IS
Inspector Sands
Not keen on the modern way of doing double headed news bulletins. Having both in shot and presenter who's not talking does that; look at their notes, look at their camera, look at the co-presenter routine which is very distracting. IIRC someone on here called that 'The Elstree Triangle', don't know why though

The ITV regions particually seem incapable of anything other than a 2-shot.
ST
Stitch08
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I think the dual headed format worked originally with George and Sophie, now however there's far too much useless and arkward banter right through the programme. Totally unsuitable.


I agree that the two presenter format didn't work at all with George and Natasha - there were loads of pairings that I think would have been much better in the slot. I'm hopeful that George on his own will be an improvement, though only one presenter on the Six will mean the end of patrnerships such as George and Sian or Jon and Jane who were fairly good together when they appeared as relief presenters.
BR
Brekkie
Inspector Sands posted:
Not keen on the modern way of doing double headed news bulletins. Having both in shot and presenter who's not talking does that; look at their notes, look at their camera, look at the co-presenter routine which is very distracting.



Yeah. I think ITV News probably have the best and worst examples of it. It did work for the Evening News as they divided up each story straight down the middle - with one presenter starting and the next finishing. They also didn't do it for the main story or feature story which might require a longer intro from the presenter.

However, when the Lunchtime News went dual headed they just seemed to alternate sentences, especially when it was an hour-long.


I can't really comment on the Six o'clock News as I don't watch it enough to know - and obviously gave it a wide berth during the Kaplinsky era.


I still think though George Aligiah would be more suited to the 10pm news, though now with Dermot Murnaghan gone I'm not sure there is any obvious choice other than George to take on the 6pm news.

Fiona Bruce possibly, but I'm not sure if other female presenters like Sian Williams, Jane Hill etc. have an established enough profile to go on to solely host the bulletin - though having said that, Huw Edwards was pretty much a newcomer in the public eye when he took over in 1999.


With the early evening bulletin though I think you need someone who is not only reputable enough to give the programme some heavyweight credentials, but they also have to be lightweight enough to appeal beyond the traditional news audience and basically stop people switching over.
ST
Stitch08
Brekkie Boy posted:
I still think though George Aligiah would be more suited to the 10pm news, though now with Dermot Murnaghan gone I'm not sure there is any obvious choice other than George to take on the 6pm news.

Fiona Bruce possibly, but I'm not sure if other female presenters like Sian Williams, Jane Hill etc. have an established enough profile to go on to solely host the bulletin - though having said that, Huw Edwards was pretty much a newcomer in the public eye when he took over in 1999.

With the early evening bulletin though I think you need someone who is not only reputable enough to give the programme some heavyweight credentials, but they also have to be lightweight enough to appeal beyond the traditional news audience and basically stop people switching over.


Fiona Bruce would actually be a good choice I think. If she were to be the main presenter of the 6 and George the deputy on the 10 then George could also do a bit more field work, as well as continuing on BBC World. I also think both Nicholas Owen and, although I'm unsure about him on News 24, Ben Brown have the right balance of gravitas and lightness to anchor the six as solo presenters, though I doubt Owen would do it since he does less shifts now he is at the BBC.
ST
STV Today
I have to say that out of the male presenters at the moment - SImon McCoy is fantastic. He is on the BBC One bulletin at the mo.

He was great at Sky and is even better on News 24. He is a fantastic interviewer who actually asks decent questions!! Simon also seems to be authorative as a presenter.

Surely it makes sense for such skills to be utilised on BBC One as a regualr fixture!
DE
deejay
Inspector Sands posted:
IIRC someone on here called that 'The Elstree Triangle', don't know why though.


I've never heard that phrase, but I'll have a game stab that it might be where the director starts on a 2-shot, Presenter A starts the link, Presenter B picks up (still on the 2-shot) then Presenter B finishes the link on a single . Points West used to do this a lot during the corporate 'cream' era (they might even still do it!). I believe it was something that was suggested to a number of regions by some consultant or other...
ST
Stitch08
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
I have to say that out of the male presenters at the moment - SImon McCoy is fantastic. He is on the BBC One bulletin at the mo.

He was great at Sky and is even better on News 24. He is a fantastic interviewer who actually asks decent questions!! Simon also seems to be authorative as a presenter.

Surely it makes sense for such skills to be utilised on BBC One as a regualr fixture!


I like Simon too and It would be good to see more of him on BBC One, but not on the Six. I'd prefer him to appear more often on Breakfast or the One.
SA
salfordjohn
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
I have to say that out of the male presenters at the moment - SImon McCoy is fantastic. He is on the BBC One bulletin at the mo.

He was great at Sky and is even better on News 24. He is a fantastic interviewer who actually asks decent questions!! Simon also seems to be authorative as a presenter.

Surely it makes sense for such skills to be utilised on BBC One as a regualr fixture!


I agree totally. Simon McCoy is the most underated and underused. He should def be given more exposure to the big BBC1 audience. He'd be perfect choice for the 'solo 6 o'clock news' - experienced, authoritative, and witty enough to handle lighter stuff and banter with interviews and weather presenters. MORE OF SIMON!!
LO
Londoner
Inspector Sands posted:
The ITV regions particually seem incapable of anything other than a 2-shot.

I think Meridian south uses single presenter shots for the top story which gives a pleasingly 'old-school' feel to the show.
KI
kitt22
salfordjohn posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
I have to say that out of the male presenters at the moment - SImon McCoy is fantastic. He is on the BBC One bulletin at the mo.

He was great at Sky and is even better on News 24. He is a fantastic interviewer who actually asks decent questions!! Simon also seems to be authorative as a presenter.

Surely it makes sense for such skills to be utilised on BBC One as a regualr fixture!


I agree totally. Simon McCoy is the most underated and underused. He should def be given more exposure to the big BBC1 audience. He'd be perfect choice for the 'solo 6 o'clock news' - experienced, authoritative, and witty enough to handle lighter stuff and banter with interviews and weather presenters. MORE OF SIMON!!


Yep totally agree. He never really worked when the Beeb tried him on Breakfast a few years back but he would be perfectly suited to a single-headed Six.

He was a bit too serious for Breakfast - exactly what the Six needs, a bit of authority.

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