Sky News Thread - Relaunch on Monday

It's the first thing I do when I get in to work!

Yes, this thread is what TV Forum's all about - little bits of information coming out bit by bit, people who know things but can't say, other people who don't know anything but pretend they do, and of course the fights.

D'you know we've been talking about this move to the new studio since March 2004?

Want a sneak preview of the studio? Take a look at the sky programme guide for November. It has a shot of Mr Rubin sitting at the new desk with the globe backdrop behind him. Very small shot but a bit of an idea for you. The globe is in front of the gallery window and lights up. Very nice.


http://www.skyprogrammeinformation.co.uk/monthly.asp?id=291&month=H&monthname=December&name=December

Old News, an no need for double post...

Perhaps that is his "posting style", just as patronising ellipses are yours.

I do hope you don't expect him to change for YOU.

Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. You seem very irritated. I could probably find some cream for that, but I think it would be easier if you just get over it.

If you have a problem with me, PM me and let loose, no point making sarcastic comments here and there, because it will do no good. Tell my your problems with me, and I'll respond to you.

A few interesting quotes in an Evening Standard piece tonight on News 24 v Sky ... they've done an interview with new BBC TV News boss Peter Horrocks.

Peter Horrocks appears intent on proving otherwise. “Sky is putting a lot of money into presenters, graphics and whizz-bang, but our challenge will be absolutely on breaking original stories and more (journalistic) firepower. There’s a whole list of recent stories where we’ve been first over Sky (those he cites include George Davis’s departure from Marks & Spencer and Foreign

Office concern over Iran’s role in Iraq). Being first, and being right. You probably saw where Sky was first and wrong last week, when it reported that Harold Pinter had died as opposed to getting the Noble prize.



Ah, but won’t the BBC’s new emphasis on speed risk similar instant misjudgements? “We don’t just bung things on air,” he replies. “A couple of weekends ago, both Sky and the ITV News channel reported that an al Qaeda website said two US marines had been taken hostage. We spoke to our correspondents in the field who gave it no credibility – since when there’s been no substantiated information of American hostages. We made it the right call.”



Nick Pollard, head of Sky News, is not impressed. “Peter Horrocks’s comments demonstrate yet again that, eight years into News 24’s existence, it still has to raise its game to Sky’s level,” he says dismissively. “As Sky News’ share during the London bombings and Hurricane Katrina showed, viewers resolutely turn to Sky for breaking news. As with every aspect of broadcasting, the BBC’s view is that there are only two ways of doing things – the BBC way and the wrong way. Viewers seem to think otherwise.”

Drop the attitude sonny. If you think you are exempt from the same type of snidey comment that you just demonstrated on smgboi then think again.

I didn't make a snidey comment. I only ment to say that we knew that already, and there was no need to post it twice.

In future I will avoid 'to the point' posts if it pleases you. My God, what is your problem with me??? :

Martin - I wasn't aware that a link had been posted on the site already. This may be a forum (normally home to people with issues they feel they can only get off their chest on a website) but it's intended for discussion about TV news presentation. It's not here for you to be a d**khead. I didn't notice the link before so I'm sure someone has benifited from my post, even if you haven't. Now go and sit in a quiet, dark corner or, better still, crawl back into the hole you came out of.

It does nark me that whoever is running News 24 starts their tenure by saying how distinctive News 24 is from Sky, then subsequently spends most of their time attacking the channel they claim to be distinguishing themselves from.

It's very trying to listen to the argument over and over again. They seem to make a virtue of being different, but only by the standards of Sky.

''We're different because we've made sure we're not doing what they're doing'' seems to be the approach the channel has taken over the past few years. They wait to see what Sky do, copy the best bits (or the worst bits when it comes to graphics), and then think around how they can put their own style on it.

If they want to do originality in journalism then great, but there's been no originality on the channel for the past 5 years, I don't see why it would change now.

Perhaps rather than having a go at me, you should check a thread to see if what you are about to say, hasn't been said before.

I hate to point this out Martin, but a few pages ago you did exactly the same thing you've been so quick to criticise.

I think at one time or another we've all posted things that have already been said - in a nearly 100 page topic that's understandable. Can we just calm down and put both mistakes (his double post, your tetchy reply) down to human error. Please.