RK
I assume they can't really do anything to fix the sound in the box and if they could they would have by now. But that's one of the perils of broadcasting from a glass box with nothing to absorb the sound. The only place they could really but the absorbing foam would be on the ceiling and somehow use it to decorate the wall behind the video wall. Any additional set structures on the remaining three sides would obscure the view defeating the purpose of being in a glass box.
I'm curious if any sounds from the atrium can be heard during the broadcast? Obviously it would have to be loud - something like the beeping of a cherry picker.
Saw sunrise for the first day last week and couldn't believe how many times the desk moved position during the programme, must be a right faf doing that all the time and running out of shot for the weather update
Isn't the desk motorized?
Bar the Mon-Thurs Sunrise presenters, the current Sky News is fine. The only complaint with the glass box is the acoustics.
I assume they can't really do anything to fix the sound in the box and if they could they would have by now. But that's one of the perils of broadcasting from a glass box with nothing to absorb the sound. The only place they could really but the absorbing foam would be on the ceiling and somehow use it to decorate the wall behind the video wall. Any additional set structures on the remaining three sides would obscure the view defeating the purpose of being in a glass box.
I'm curious if any sounds from the atrium can be heard during the broadcast? Obviously it would have to be loud - something like the beeping of a cherry picker.
Saw sunrise for the first day last week and couldn't believe how many times the desk moved position during the programme, must be a right faf doing that all the time and running out of shot for the weather update
Isn't the desk motorized?
CO
Isn't the desk motorized?
No - the base is static and the top half is pushed round by the floor manager manually in breaks to each position. However, the height of the desk is adjusted by a nifty little button.
Isn't the desk motorized?
No - the base is static and the top half is pushed round by the floor manager manually in breaks to each position. However, the height of the desk is adjusted by a nifty little button.
FU
My thoughts exactly. Plus the glass box isn't going to be the main studio anyway soon If I've understood correctly?
fusionlad
Founding member
I'm baffled how people would stop watching something on the basis of a studio. Each to their own I guess, but I would have thought that content is king and (personalities and egos aside) you can't actually fault the journalistic quality of the channel at all.
My thoughts exactly. Plus the glass box isn't going to be the main studio anyway soon If I've understood correctly?
DE
But I thought it wasn't going to be the main studio? That's still being built.
Im going to make a prediction.
Within two years, the box will be gone. They might use it for the odd thing, but it won't be the main studio.
Within two years, the box will be gone. They might use it for the odd thing, but it won't be the main studio.
But I thought it wasn't going to be the main studio? That's still being built.
GL
People stop watching for a number of reasons related to presentation.
The first - acoustics. A number of forum members have mentioned that the acoustics are so bad that it can feel slightly unwatchable at times. The jarring, echo sound can get quite annoying. Naturally, it depends what device you're viewing on. If you have your headphones in and you're watching it online, the sound is AWFUL.
The second - distractions. Watch many news shows with 'real' backgrounds over the years, and they have often replaced glass backgrounds with frosted glass. It's great to have a real life world behind the presenters but can at times be completely distracting if there is too much going on.
The third - blandness. This also relates to content. Everything has been stripped back so much that the whole thing has less of an exciting sense of urgency. The set is a dull kind of beige look. The presentation is also a little more beige and bland. The main purpose of a real-world backdrop is to convey a sense that the presenter is in the heart of the newsroom action. By placing them inside a glass box surrounded by a canteen and around 430 miniature Christmas trees, they have conveyed the image of a regional college or hospital rather than a world-leading news channel.
I'm a massive fan of Sky News and I know they will refine and fix the issues (probably by eventually just using the glassbox purely for down-the-line lives, etc) but at the moment, it's pretty poor.
I'm baffled how people would stop watching something on the basis of a studio. Each to their own I guess, but I would have thought that content is king and (personalities and egos aside) you can't actually fault the journalistic quality of the channel at all.
People stop watching for a number of reasons related to presentation.
The first - acoustics. A number of forum members have mentioned that the acoustics are so bad that it can feel slightly unwatchable at times. The jarring, echo sound can get quite annoying. Naturally, it depends what device you're viewing on. If you have your headphones in and you're watching it online, the sound is AWFUL.
The second - distractions. Watch many news shows with 'real' backgrounds over the years, and they have often replaced glass backgrounds with frosted glass. It's great to have a real life world behind the presenters but can at times be completely distracting if there is too much going on.
The third - blandness. This also relates to content. Everything has been stripped back so much that the whole thing has less of an exciting sense of urgency. The set is a dull kind of beige look. The presentation is also a little more beige and bland. The main purpose of a real-world backdrop is to convey a sense that the presenter is in the heart of the newsroom action. By placing them inside a glass box surrounded by a canteen and around 430 miniature Christmas trees, they have conveyed the image of a regional college or hospital rather than a world-leading news channel.
I'm a massive fan of Sky News and I know they will refine and fix the issues (probably by eventually just using the glassbox purely for down-the-line lives, etc) but at the moment, it's pretty poor.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
Sky have given the NC a bit of an open goal between 10-11am. The human interest slanted Derbyshire programme has more news than Sky with an hour of political analysis and interviews.
The current Sunrise programme also shows how brilliantly simple BBC Breakfast is, yet informative. Eamonn Holmes really did paper over the cracks of their flagship show. The Fri/Sun editions are bearable thanks to Stephen Dixon. The only redeeming grace is that Sunrise isn't as tabloid as GMB.
The current Sunrise programme also shows how brilliantly simple BBC Breakfast is, yet informative. Eamonn Holmes really did paper over the cracks of their flagship show. The Fri/Sun editions are bearable thanks to Stephen Dixon. The only redeeming grace is that Sunrise isn't as tabloid as GMB.
AJ
The third - blandness. This also relates to content. Everything has been stripped back so much that the whole thing has less of an exciting sense of urgency. The set is a dull kind of beige look. The presentation is also a little more beige and bland. The main purpose of a real-world backdrop is to convey a sense that the presenter is in the heart of the newsroom action. By placing them inside a glass box surrounded by a canteen and around 430 miniature Christmas trees, they have conveyed the image of a regional college or hospital rather than a world-leading news channel.
Sorry, but I'm not buying the hyperbole here. And what exactly sets aside an office from a newsroom? At the end of the day, it's people sat at desks with computer screens.
Not to mention your contradictions - you want the exciting nature and urgency of being in a newsroom, but berate the "distractions" of people milling around earlier in your post?
The third - blandness. This also relates to content. Everything has been stripped back so much that the whole thing has less of an exciting sense of urgency. The set is a dull kind of beige look. The presentation is also a little more beige and bland. The main purpose of a real-world backdrop is to convey a sense that the presenter is in the heart of the newsroom action. By placing them inside a glass box surrounded by a canteen and around 430 miniature Christmas trees, they have conveyed the image of a regional college or hospital rather than a world-leading news channel.
Sorry, but I'm not buying the hyperbole here. And what exactly sets aside an office from a newsroom? At the end of the day, it's people sat at desks with computer screens.
Not to mention your contradictions - you want the exciting nature and urgency of being in a newsroom, but berate the "distractions" of people milling around earlier in your post?
LL
London Lite
Founding member
Worth noting when they're in the old studio, listen with headphones and you'll hear how loud the newsroom is. Not as bad acoustically as the glass box, but still a distraction.
PI
But I thought it wasn't going to be the main studio? That's still being built.
If that's the case there is hope yet. I thought it was the main one.
Im going to make a prediction.
Within two years, the box will be gone. They might use it for the odd thing, but it won't be the main studio.
Within two years, the box will be gone. They might use it for the odd thing, but it won't be the main studio.
But I thought it wasn't going to be the main studio? That's still being built.
If that's the case there is hope yet. I thought it was the main one.
Last edited by picard on 30 November 2016 5:33pm