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SK
Skygeek

Nope. Next...

Just making some speculation. Surely there would be a fresher article to send an alert about.

But then you'd be taking up more of people's time with material they'd be inclined to think was "push-worthy" breaking news that isn't, thereby leaving them disinclined to continue using the app, hence why it's far-more-sensible to use a story from a previous news cycle.


Don't forget... I quite literally do this for a living!

Also, I'd politely suggest you go back to the previous page and read my redrafted response to you "making some speculation".
RO
rob Founding member
Now my mind is wondering if this was a way to get the message out about President Trump even more or just a mistake.


Mistake. Next...
RK
Rkolsen

POST BELOW EDITED

Nope. I've worked closely with that team (we literally shared desks for two-and-a-half years) and it's gotta link to something.. The people who - deliberately or otherwise - put out this push will have been techies, not journalists. If somebody did that as a "joke" with the same thought you had in your head, they'd be toast.

It occurs to me that whether it's anti-Murdoch conspiracy theories with zero basis of evidence (and the guardianship of Ofcom to ensure no such thing could ever happen), Dr. Who misogyny, or Daily Mail-infused anti-BBC bile over presenter's pay, the tinfoil-hattery on-display around here is making it a lot less-pleasant of a place to visit, and much more like the murky swamp that is the DS forums.



To the mods' credit, it looks like they've managed to rein in the worst offenders, but it's a slippery slope.

The natural response, and one I understand, is: "You're not a mod, and if you don't like it, sling your hook."

All I'm saying - and I've said this before in other threads unrelated to Sky - is that the standard-of-discourse we enjoy here is higher than that, and I very much hope it will be once more.

No, my entire reasoning was that found it surprising that they'd push out an article that was atleast 24 hours old.

Edit : It never occurred to me that it would be a joke and you have no idea what I was thinking. I wrote what I thought a possibility may be a mistake, criticism of POTUS or a way to show Ofcom that they wouldn't become partisan.

I was not attacking you, Murdoch or Sky, Just postulating why.

But then you'd be taking up more of people's time with material they'd be inclined to think was "push-worthy" breaking news that isn't, thereby leaving them disinclined to continue using the app, hence why it's far-more-sensible to use a story from a previous news cycle.

Don't forget... I quite literally do this for a living!

Also, I'd politely suggest you go back to the previous page and read my redrafted response to you "making some speculation".


I highly doubt my Tweet will have any effect on use of the app. I have barely 600 followers and most of them are in the US. Chances are they do not even have the Sky News app on their phone or know Sky is.

Also if your concerned about taking up people's time why did they send out the test alert linking to an old article that likely isn't "'push-worthy breaking news"? Most would have heard the second meeting by now. This push alert may not be In the best interest to Sky's core audience - those in the U.K. and Ireland. Looking at the front page of the app you could have done a test and sent it to the Grenfell fire article, the two on prescription drugs or any Brexit story.

I wasn't attacking you or anyone at Sky - I just found it incredibly odd.
Last edited by Rkolsen on 20 July 2017 1:05pm
AN
all new Phil
In the nicest possible way - no one really cares.
Brekkie, cat and Kevizz MS gave kudos
SK
Skygeek

POST BELOW EDITED

Nope. I've worked closely with that team (we literally shared desks for two-and-a-half years) and it's gotta link to something.. The people who - deliberately or otherwise - put out this push will have been techies, not journalists. If somebody did that as a "joke" with the same thought you had in your head, they'd be toast.

It occurs to me that whether it's anti-Murdoch conspiracy theories with zero basis of evidence (and the guardianship of Ofcom to ensure no such thing could ever happen), Dr. Who misogyny, or Daily Mail-infused anti-BBC bile over presenter's pay, the tinfoil-hattery on-display around here is making it a lot less-pleasant of a place to visit, and much more like the murky swamp that is the DS forums.



To the mods' credit, it looks like they've managed to rein in the worst offenders, but it's a slippery slope.

The natural response, and one I understand, is: "You're not a mod, and if you don't like it, sling your hook."

All I'm saying - and I've said this before in other threads unrelated to Sky - is that the standard-of-discourse we enjoy here is higher than that, and I very much hope it will be once more.

No, my entire reasoning was that found it surprising that they'd push out an article that was atleast 24 hours old.

But then you'd be taking up more of people's time with material they'd be inclined to think was "push-worthy" breaking news that isn't, thereby leaving them disinclined to continue using the app, hence why it's far-more-sensible to use a story from a previous news cycle.

Don't forget... I quite literally do this for a living!

Also, I'd politely suggest you go back to the previous page and read my redrafted response to you "making some speculation".


I highly doubt my Tweet will have any effect on use of the app. I have barely 600 followers and most of them are in the US. Chances are they do not even have the Sky News app on their phone or know Sky is.

Also if your concerned about taking up people's time why did they send out the test alert linking to an old article that likely isn't "'push-worthy breaking news"? Most would have heard the second meeting by now. This push alert may not be In the best interest to Sky's core audience - those in the U.K. and Ireland. Looking at the front page of the app you could have done a test and sent it to the Grenfell fire article, the two on prescription drugs or any Brexit story.

I wasn't attacking you or anyone at Sky - I just found it incredibly odd.

Not. Everything. Is. About. You.


Get out of your own head and go back and re-read what I wrote properly about how it actually works in-practise because I have seen the buttons pushed with my own two eyes, and from the journalistic side, have even been the one doing the pushing.

My remarks related to the hundreds of thousands of people who use the Sky News app every day, not those who engage with your Twitter feed, and I have explained PRECISELY why they went with an old piece. Again... if the audience sees "Test", they'll probably know it was just that - or a mistake - so they'll either ignore it, or if they open it, we don't want to confront them with ACTUAL breaking news because it makes it look like the push has been messed up - so it's best to pick an "old story".

Oh, and speaking of your Twitter, I've had a quick look...

You are actually spending your early morning tweeting Sky News directly to float this "speculation" you have made. I don't know what response you expect, but I suggest it might ironically be more productive to remain in your own echo chamber, since you seem to have no regard for facts, context, explanation, or expertise, and would instead just rather hear your own voice.
Ratflump, London Lite and rob gave kudos
CO
Connews
We are currently changing our push alerts system to allow for notifications to link directly to the relevant story, rather than just the homepage of the app. Hope this background helps.
AN
all new Phil
Come off it, we all know Rupert Murdoch himself pressed the button to send it Wink
SK
Skygeek
Come off it, we all know Rupert Murdoch himself pressed the button to send it Wink

Eeeeeeexcellent!
BM
BM11
The notification on the app just now only had the words OJ before taking a link to the article taking about his parole. I presume that is part of the testing to have such a short piece of text.
BM
BM11
And then at 20.01 UK time a second, full sentence, notification comes.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Come off it, we all know Rupert Murdoch himself pressed the button to send it Wink


Don't be silly! Even Rupert's minions minions minions have minions. 😉
LL
London Lite Founding member
Sky appear to be using 4G for the Tour de France final stage coverage from Paris. The 1815 live was particularly bad as Froome won the race as Paris's mobile networks were congested.

However, it appears they used the same set-up in Marseille yesterday and were able to have at least 720p PQ.

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