Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

I'd expect the studio used at Sky in Osterley to have been made available to both Sky News and Channel Four - so both operations would have got a feed of the studio to do with what they wished.

Whether Sky News then routed it through a gallery of their own (to add the ticker) or whether it was routed straight to Sky News presentation (with pres adding the ticker) I can't say.

I suspect both C4 and Sky had the same feed from the studio making the show - you wouldn't expect C4 to be fed the output of a downstream Sky News gallery.

All of what they said.

Freedom of speech doesn't involve repeating yourself ad nauseam to the extent that it robs the discussion of any other oxygen. To put it into context, if a guest on Sky News did that, we'd fade to a break (seamlessly, in case you were wondering) and then throw them off-air!

And breathe.

I think the comments on here about Sky News are a little bit harsh. I've always considered Sky News to be incredibly 'slick' for want of a better word.

All channels go through fazes where technical problems happen, it's just sods law it's often several problems at the same time, caused by different things.

I've always said, either when training people or giving talks in the radio sector, a mistake should come as a surprise, not an hourly feature.

Take the radio station I'm involved with, we had an issue with our play out system where (on occasion) our travel intro would load twice, rather than the outro which caused some hiccups for our presenters when exiting the travel news. One or two listeners commented on email that it kept happening, I simply responded by saying we're aware of it and are looking into the problem, much like Skygeek has done on here. It's now fixed by the way.

There's three ways to raise an issue, the first is point it out, leave it and wait for a response, the second - to have a little laugh (with) or thirdly, moan. The third is likely to cheese people of, the second could rub someone up the wrong way and the first is likely to get a reasoned reply.

I didn't see tonight's programme, but no gallery in the world is immune from finger trouble.

These days the automation systems that run or support many galleries can mean that the Director or Vision Mixer has to wait for whatever they accidentally ran to finish before they can do anything to rectify the issue. So while it might look like somebody hasn't noticed that the wrong thing has been on screen for 10 seconds, they almost certainly have but may not be able to instantly fix it.

Ooh, matron!

In all seriousness, though, may I suggest the creation of a catch-all "That Went Wrong" thread, with the understanding being that it can break out into the individual channel threads if it's something that has a wider impact on a channel's output, as opposed to what's been posted here, which is basically: "Ooh, I saw THIS blip!" over and over again?

That way, the people who feel so-inclined can vent their spleens without it disrupting the flow of other conversations unless it's a genuine fist-in-your-mouth, Nicholas-Witchell-sits-on-a-lesbian moment!

What an awful thing to say.

Thanks babe

I think it's fair enough that people report on technical balls ups, even if they are happening frequently. This is a presentation forum after all.

Yes, but there's a difference between a blip and a balls-up. This is just cataloging blips. A balls-up would be something with further-reaching consequences or of greater note.


As people have pointed out, I've explained that there's an underlying problem that there's an ongoing effort to fix.. This cry of "freedom-of-speech" just seems to be an excuse for the poster to hear his own voice.

And before anyone accuses me of the same thing:

a) I'm in a better position than most to know whereof I speak (particularly in relation to Sky)
b) Even though I too have bridled at the posts in question, I've offered a solution that doesn't silence them. I don't think you can say fairer than that.

I think it's the constant drone of the same member saying the same thing over and over again, as if he hadn't mentioned it before, that's getting people's back up.

Back to the point of this forum (TV presentation) Any updates yet on the new studio? Surprised we haven't seen any sneak peeks yet.

Because it doesn't yet exist, and everything has been moved back by the unexpected election, although I'm not at liberty to say by how much.