LJ
It's actually the case that in Ireland multitrip is the weather sponsor and what happens is they overlay the multitrip sting over the Qatar Airways one. However, they are not perfectly aligned meaning we still see the beginning of the Qatar sting and then multitrip begins. It's really amateurish the way it's done and has been like that for some time.
If you're watching online, it may be mistakenly relaying an ROI feed, which may make the difference. I can assure you it's still Qatar Airways in the main.
It's actually the case that in Ireland multitrip is the weather sponsor and what happens is they overlay the multitrip sting over the Qatar Airways one. However, they are not perfectly aligned meaning we still see the beginning of the Qatar sting and then multitrip begins. It's really amateurish the way it's done and has been like that for some time.
II
No Decision Time this year, just been confirmed by Sky:
https://corporate.sky.com/media-centre/news-page/2017/the-general-election-on-sky-news
It will be called Vote 2017 the whole way through including the results show, be interesting to see if we're going to see Decision Time Music but looking like we will not see it at all, which will be a shame, but Sky News presentation has been heading to a basic style gradually over the past couple of years so we shouldn't expect anything special, probably the same music and stings and basic graphics any other day apart from the usual election lower third.
https://corporate.sky.com/media-centre/news-page/2017/the-general-election-on-sky-news
It will be called Vote 2017 the whole way through including the results show, be interesting to see if we're going to see Decision Time Music but looking like we will not see it at all, which will be a shame, but Sky News presentation has been heading to a basic style gradually over the past couple of years so we shouldn't expect anything special, probably the same music and stings and basic graphics any other day apart from the usual election lower third.
JK
Adam Boulton Boulton and Sophy Ridge to co-anchor 'Vote 2017' from Osterley and Abingdon Green respectively.
Very disappointing to see them ditching the 'Decision Time' branding. I wonder why they've taken this decision. I most certainly hope the election music is not gone also, however I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's very odd that they seem to go more all-out for U.S. elections than they do domestic ones.
Very disappointing to see them ditching the 'Decision Time' branding. I wonder why they've taken this decision. I most certainly hope the election music is not gone also, however I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. It's very odd that they seem to go more all-out for U.S. elections than they do domestic ones.
CA
Not sure it's true to say they go 'all out' for U.S. Elections but not UK ones.
The press release outlining the coverage sounded really impressive to me.
I think it was Vote 2001 and Vote 2005, so if anything they're reverting to that.
Vote is shorter on graphics, smaller for a hashtag, and makes more sense to the average viewer than 'Decision Time', which I always thought was OTT.
Very good decision to have Sophy at Westminster doing interviews and Adam in Osterley. I just hope they stick to that and don't try to have (like last time) that disjointed attempt to have different anchors presenting the show from different counts ... horrible to watch.
The press release outlining the coverage sounded really impressive to me.
I think it was Vote 2001 and Vote 2005, so if anything they're reverting to that.
Vote is shorter on graphics, smaller for a hashtag, and makes more sense to the average viewer than 'Decision Time', which I always thought was OTT.
Very good decision to have Sophy at Westminster doing interviews and Adam in Osterley. I just hope they stick to that and don't try to have (like last time) that disjointed attempt to have different anchors presenting the show from different counts ... horrible to watch.
SP
You also have to remember that this is a snap election so the broadcasters are having to put things into place at very short notice compared to the US Elections for which there was several years to prepare.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
I hope the temporary studio used for the referendum at College Green is back out again?
II
The trouble is Sky News is very much a channel on the decline compared to what it used to be, not just in presentation terms but production wise is of a lower standard than it used to be with less attention to detail on it (I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch of the imagination but it's not as good as it used to be) the standard of presenters is lower (let's face it, JT is badly missed) and any creativity and originality has been sucked out of the channel in recent years and it lacks the energy that it once had that set it apart from the other news channels.
These days Sky News is a news channel among other news channels, it feels like one of many, whereas before it used to offer something that the others did not and set it apart from the rest but all we're seeing over the past 12-18 months is basically further and further eroding of anything unique about it as it becomes more and more confined to strict templates with any sense of creativity blocked for uniformity. I'm not saying that uniformity is a bad thing and some gimmicks I'm glad are gone, it's just that it's been pushed a little too far.
However despite all of the above in the last 12-18 months the coverage of the EU Referendum was excellent, the local elections was a little disappointing but nothing majorly bad and Sky have always been excellent and pulling off these big set piece events, so hopefully they will do it this time with the election as well with a studio that has provided Sky with many years of excellent presentatio and is a proper studio, as opposed to a vanity project first and a studio second like the glass box.
These days Sky News is a news channel among other news channels, it feels like one of many, whereas before it used to offer something that the others did not and set it apart from the rest but all we're seeing over the past 12-18 months is basically further and further eroding of anything unique about it as it becomes more and more confined to strict templates with any sense of creativity blocked for uniformity. I'm not saying that uniformity is a bad thing and some gimmicks I'm glad are gone, it's just that it's been pushed a little too far.
However despite all of the above in the last 12-18 months the coverage of the EU Referendum was excellent, the local elections was a little disappointing but nothing majorly bad and Sky have always been excellent and pulling off these big set piece events, so hopefully they will do it this time with the election as well with a studio that has provided Sky with many years of excellent presentatio and is a proper studio, as opposed to a vanity project first and a studio second like the glass box.
FU
[snip same old moans]
Will you give over making the same comments over and over about how the channel has gone down hill. We all get it, Sky News has changed, but no need to ram your opinions on a 'channel on the decline' every time something is announced.
Lets just comment on the current presentation rather than keep on harking back to the 'old days'.
fusionlad
Founding member
The trouble is Sky News is very much a channel on the decline compared to what it used to be....
[snip same old moans]
Will you give over making the same comments over and over about how the channel has gone down hill. We all get it, Sky News has changed, but no need to ram your opinions on a 'channel on the decline' every time something is announced.
Lets just comment on the current presentation rather than keep on harking back to the 'old days'.
II
Thing is I'm sure that someone will be along soon enough saying the changes needed to be done because they make Sky News a better channel for x, y and z reason and I shouldn't be so critical, despite the fact If you are praising a change, you are essentially applying criticism to the practices before the change saying that before the change Sky News did something wrong for x amount of time without changing it.
There's a tendency on this forum for people who find no fault with Sky News, but as soon as someone changes something on the channel, suddenly they say the new change is great and say that before the change there was a certain problem despite the fact they never mentioned it before.
I don't think Sky News is a bad channel, it has no major strengths and no major weaknesses. It's a good, reliable channel. The presentation is fine, the presenters are on the whole fine and the production is fine. Sky News is fine. The trouble is, it used to be more than that and these days it just feels a touch stifled, not helped by the loss of big name presenters, presentation that is more rigid and a general feeling that all creativity and innovation is sucked out of the channel.
I don't want to see it go back to how it was 10 years ago when there was FAR too many gimmicks, silly graphics and swishes and suchlike which ruined the actual programming and it needed toning down, however I felt we'd reached the right balance about 12-15 months ago, almost a year later and I just think it's gone too far.
There's a tendency on this forum for people who find no fault with Sky News, but as soon as someone changes something on the channel, suddenly they say the new change is great and say that before the change there was a certain problem despite the fact they never mentioned it before.
I don't think Sky News is a bad channel, it has no major strengths and no major weaknesses. It's a good, reliable channel. The presentation is fine, the presenters are on the whole fine and the production is fine. Sky News is fine. The trouble is, it used to be more than that and these days it just feels a touch stifled, not helped by the loss of big name presenters, presentation that is more rigid and a general feeling that all creativity and innovation is sucked out of the channel.
I don't want to see it go back to how it was 10 years ago when there was FAR too many gimmicks, silly graphics and swishes and suchlike which ruined the actual programming and it needed toning down, however I felt we'd reached the right balance about 12-15 months ago, almost a year later and I just think it's gone too far.
JK
I meant branding and graphics wise above content really. The coverage I'm sure will be brilliant, but like Sky's appointment-to-view programming, it's UK election coverage has been diluted to a bland presentation void of any unique branding.
Whereas for the US Election we had special titles, flashy graphics and of course the brilliant Decision Time music.
From what we've seen of this election branding, it's essentially Sky's usual graphics with a few coloured stripes on the side.
I was reviewing Sky's 2015 graphics on TV Live yesterday and even that was far superior to what we have this time around. I'd have much rather just had them wheeled out again without modification.
Not sure it's true to say they go 'all out' for U.S. Elections but not UK ones.
The press release outlining the coverage sounded really impressive to me.
The press release outlining the coverage sounded really impressive to me.
I meant branding and graphics wise above content really. The coverage I'm sure will be brilliant, but like Sky's appointment-to-view programming, it's UK election coverage has been diluted to a bland presentation void of any unique branding.
Whereas for the US Election we had special titles, flashy graphics and of course the brilliant Decision Time music.
From what we've seen of this election branding, it's essentially Sky's usual graphics with a few coloured stripes on the side.
I was reviewing Sky's 2015 graphics on TV Live yesterday and even that was far superior to what we have this time around. I'd have much rather just had them wheeled out again without modification.
II
It's not just graphics, It's also the presenting positions, every guest that comes on it feels like is attending a job interview, with the interviewer one side and the interviewees on other, it's the worst set-up Sky have had, even using the desk at Westminster and old Studio works better because of the shape and the fact you don't have guests and presenters sitting directly opposite each other.
But this is my point about the bland style - It's like, we have a desk, we have these graphics, everything has to fit around that no matter what, the fact a press preview looks way too formal, any guest looks like they're being interviewed for a job, sunrise feels far less laid back than it used to really and the big screen back-drop is far too bright for overnight doesn't matter. Everything has to be uniform regardless if it suits it or not.
That's my frustration with Sky News, it's just some rigid template these days that everything is forced into regardless of suitability.
But this is my point about the bland style - It's like, we have a desk, we have these graphics, everything has to fit around that no matter what, the fact a press preview looks way too formal, any guest looks like they're being interviewed for a job, sunrise feels far less laid back than it used to really and the big screen back-drop is far too bright for overnight doesn't matter. Everything has to be uniform regardless if it suits it or not.
That's my frustration with Sky News, it's just some rigid template these days that everything is forced into regardless of suitability.