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skyviewer
AJ posted:
skyviewer posted:
Has anybody maybe some caps of the election graphics from today, didn´t have the opportunity to watch skynews all day, I would appreciate it , thanks.


There's some examples in the coverage on the Sky News YouTube channel.

Yes, I´ve just seen that, but I suppose there wasn´t more than the strap and the box at the top right corner of the screen.
RO
rob Founding member
skyviewer posted:
AJ posted:
skyviewer posted:
Has anybody maybe some caps of the election graphics from today, didn´t have the opportunity to watch skynews all day, I would appreciate it , thanks.


There's some examples in the coverage on the Sky News YouTube channel.

Yes, I´ve just seen that, but I suppose there wasn´t more than the strap and the box at the top right corner of the screen.


I'll have images on TV Live sometime today.
MD
mdtauk
skyviewer posted:
AJ posted:
skyviewer posted:
Has anybody maybe some caps of the election graphics from today, didn´t have the opportunity to watch skynews all day, I would appreciate it , thanks.


There's some examples in the coverage on the Sky News YouTube channel.

Yes, I´ve just seen that, but I suppose there wasn't more than the strap and the box at the top right corner of the screen.


The Split VT graphic has a special background animation, and there were some Newswall/News Screen graphics. They are going with a hexagon motief for it's map and marginal seat graphics.
BA
bilky asko
noggin posted:
Kevizz MS posted:
Caught a bit of the election coverage on Sky News Australia's overnights and there's some really nice cinematography in use with the prerecorded packages. Can see they're using an expensive looking DSLR on a mount, giving constituent street interviews the same visual feel as the In The Margins promos. Really nice. They mightn't be so creative with studio presentation these days but it's good to see them experimenting in this area.


Suspect it is a cost-saving measure. DSLRs are going to be cheaper than a decent ENG camera like a Sony PMW500, and probably less than a low-cost VJ camera like the JVC GY-HM650. The difference is that the DSLR, whilst giving a nice cinema-look (shallow DoF etc.), probably won't meet EBU (not sure there is an equivalent in Aus) tier standards at even 2J, which means that it may be adding artefacts that hammer encoding downstream. DSLRs are in use by UK broadcasters, but you need a good practical reason to use them, such as being able to pose as a tourist (and not just an "I like the look" one)

The quality may possibly not be an issue for Sky Aus as they are SD ?

Of course they could be using something like a Canon C300 - which gives DSLR-type pictures, but with a broadcast quality backend that meets better than Tier 2J. (2J is the 'not quite good enough for 2, but OK for news' level) But it isn't a dirt-cheap camera like DSLRs are (in broadcast terms)


I'm not sure if I've asked this before, but would something like an Atomos Ninja or Samurai bring the video quality up to that standard, as it bypasses the internal compression in the camera?
NG
noggin Founding member
bilky asko posted:
noggin posted:
Kevizz MS posted:
Caught a bit of the election coverage on Sky News Australia's overnights and there's some really nice cinematography in use with the prerecorded packages. Can see they're using an expensive looking DSLR on a mount, giving constituent street interviews the same visual feel as the In The Margins promos. Really nice. They mightn't be so creative with studio presentation these days but it's good to see them experimenting in this area.


Suspect it is a cost-saving measure. DSLRs are going to be cheaper than a decent ENG camera like a Sony PMW500, and probably less than a low-cost VJ camera like the JVC GY-HM650. The difference is that the DSLR, whilst giving a nice cinema-look (shallow DoF etc.), probably won't meet EBU (not sure there is an equivalent in Aus) tier standards at even 2J, which means that it may be adding artefacts that hammer encoding downstream. DSLRs are in use by UK broadcasters, but you need a good practical reason to use them, such as being able to pose as a tourist (and not just an "I like the look" one)

The quality may possibly not be an issue for Sky Aus as they are SD ?

Of course they could be using something like a Canon C300 - which gives DSLR-type pictures, but with a broadcast quality backend that meets better than Tier 2J. (2J is the 'not quite good enough for 2, but OK for news' level) But it isn't a dirt-cheap camera like DSLRs are (in broadcast terms)


I'm not sure if I've asked this before, but would something like an Atomos Ninja or Samurai bring the video quality up to that standard, as it bypasses the internal compression in the camera?


Depends. The issue with most DSLRs (but not all) is that the sensors pixel or line bin rather than doing a decent filter, which means the artefacts (mainly moire and aliasing) are baked in to the video irrespective of the compression scheme. Using an external recorder solves the bitrate/codec issue (which was an issue with cameras like the EX3) but doesn't solve the issue that the source video is artefacty pre-compression.
FO
fodg09
Fairly dramatic pictures from Dammartin on Sky News in the last few minutes.

75,000+ watching the YouTube stream,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlQJbsVs48
DV
dvboy
It seems that Burley and Brunt were asked to move back from their position so they went to a break. Back from the break it was a presenter in the studio who started a down the line interview but interrupted it to go live to Dammartin. It's been suggested that they saw preparation for an operation but we're asked not to broadcast this.

Now they've gone straight back to Kay who ran to the camera to report explosions and Brunt is explaining they were moved back because of the events at Dammartin
MA
Markymark
fodg09 posted:
Fairly dramatic pictures from Dammartin on Sky News in the last few minutes.

75,000+ watching the YouTube stream,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlQJbsVs48


Umm. I'm not sure it's such a good idea to be providing live coverage of the security forces close to the scenes, who's to say the terrorists are not viewing the coverage inside the buildings ?
GE
Gareth E
I have to say, whether its a good or bad idea - watching both BBC and Sky simultaneously, this is a rather extraordinary few minutes of television.
PE
peterrocket Founding member
Markymark posted:
fodg09 posted:
Fairly dramatic pictures from Dammartin on Sky News in the last few minutes.

75,000+ watching the YouTube stream,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlQJbsVs48


Umm. I'm not sure it's such a good idea to be providing live coverage of the security forces close to the scenes, who's to say the terrorists are not viewing the coverage inside the buildings ?


They're running the pictures on a delay, so by time they would see the YouTube stream, you'd be talking over two to three minutes.
MA
Markymark
bbcsport posted:
I have to say, whether its a good or bad idea - watching both BBC and Sky simultaneously, this is a rather extraordinary few minutes of television.


I do agree, yes. It brings back memories of the SAS raid on the Iranian Embassy on a Bank Holiday Monday evening in 1980
MA
Markymark
peterrocket posted:
Markymark posted:
fodg09 posted:
Fairly dramatic pictures from Dammartin on Sky News in the last few minutes.

75,000+ watching the YouTube stream,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlQJbsVs48


Umm. I'm not sure it's such a good idea to be providing live coverage of the security forces close to the scenes, who's to say the terrorists are not viewing the coverage inside the buildings ?


They're running the pictures on a delay, so by time they would see the YouTube stream, you'd be talking over two to three minutes.


What about broadcast TV latency though, only a few seconds ?

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