Sky News: Presentation Discussion

After the sport, Lukwesa broke in with breaking news and continued the report and it faded her mid sentence into a break.

100% agree! Dull presentation, no imagination, dull graphics the lot.

Not a fan of having the "full" business graphics on screen all the time. I'd rather have it be that the small graphic next to the DOG and have the full set during the business updates.

Thank you that someone finally also says what I think. Normally noone understands why I don't like the presentation and onscreen graphics. Why do they have a newswall? Not to use it? Although I have to say that I like the new TOTH.

Since they got the new boring graphics, and stopped using 100 different pres points in the studio have the ratings for Sky News gone A) Up or B) Down.

Once you have answered that question, you may realise why nobody really cares about your demands that the graphics are boring. Nobody* watches Sky News for the graphics, or for long sweeping shots of Eamon Holmes walking down a staircase to get to his next report.

* within statistical error

Well they axed everything and the ratings have gone A) Up.
Am I right?!
But by the way It seems that you don't want to realise the posts of Cross channel and Fromthenorth. Those are as you can se NOT only MY demands.

have you lost sight of the fact this is chiefly a presentation forum, and not a 'ratings' forum?
however annoying and repetitive you might find him - attacking a TV Forum poster for being enthusiastic about presentation is baffling

Agreed.


If they were to have a revamp, I would like to see at least SOME double-headed presentation (nominally on Sunrise).
Not sad about the wideshots of presenters walking from one presentation point to another disappearing.
BUT something more interesting than what we have now, please....

You're missing the point. The poster seems to think Sky News are in desperate need of changes and somehow the lack of his ideas being put into practice will have an adverse effect on how the business is performing.

I'm not attacking him for being enthuiastic about presentation, I'm pointing out why people don't agree with him constantly going on about how Sky News's graphics are terrible and need replacing now because they're the most important thing on the channel. If he had a single constructive point to make about how this fits into the way the channel operates today, and how it's changed in the last few years, he wouldn't need this, and I wouldn't have said anything. However, he just constantly goes on and on about how he wants new graphics.

In the real world, new graphics cost money. Spending money on something means justifying that expenditure, and for most commercial channels that means improving or maintaining viewing figures. Ratings and presentation go hand-in-hand. Are the current graphics fit for purpose? Are they on-brand? Is there somebody else out there who's come up with a new/clever idea which can't be implemented into the current set? If your answers are yes, yes, no, then there's no justification for new graphics.

It's all very well to reminise about how good the 2005 look was on Sky - I liked it myself. But to say lets throw all we have now away and go back to exactly what we had then would be crazy. Especially since the viewing figures indicate that most people prefer the current, less brash, less in-your-face, more repetitive, reliable Sky News, than the one back then with the all-singing-all-dancing studio. The channel and everything about it has moved on and modernised. They lost the ratings war with the BBC News Channel during that look for a start, a channel which isn't known for it's exciting graphics.

Finally, while this may be a presentation forum, it's important to not forget that we are not who the channels are broadcasting to or for. They are not there to keep pres geeks happy. When I say nobody watches Sky News for the graphics, I mean it. While a couple of people off this forum may do exactly that, they're not watching Sky News, they're watching the output of a VizRT box (other CGs are available from your local stockist). There are thousands of people who do watch Sky News for the content, because of a twisted love for Kay Burley, or because they like their news repeated every 15 minutes. None of them sit there going "I wish the ticker background was a bit more, you know, exciting". Those are the viewers that Sky News is trying to keep watching, not us, and until those people do start going "your graphics are dull", Sky News won't care what we have to say. Discussion about aspects of presentation without reference to the real world is not productive or constructive. And constant repetition of the same point over and over again just gets on people's tits.

I will just point out that Phil94 is the same person who said that Boulton & Co was the most important programme on the channel because it's "the only hour which survived sky's drastic cut of walking-around-studios".

OT: Asa *please* can we have an ignore user feature in the new forum software?

Little snippet as an aside: Shelley Gooderick (wife of BBC News' Matt Gooderick) is leaving Italian Station RAI to join Sky News as a News Producer.

That's all. Carry on.

Kudos to you, dosxuk. I completely agree with everything your saying.

And with regards to double-headed presentation, Sunrise sort of does have two presenters, especially when Eamonn and Charlotte are on. Heck, Holmes even introduces it as Sunrise with Eamonn and Charlotte most days. I quite like the current presentation of weekday Sunrise.