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Sky News: Presentation Discussion

(May 2010)

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MO
Moz
Thomas posted:
phil94 posted:
I don't get your problem with the splitscreen! You should be rather concerned about the theme music!

Oh and the usage of the newswall and nice studio and the coming up into break sequence and the voiceover and the nice diversified programs and the isle and the boring and simple on screen graphics and oh yes there is no problem with the toth at all!

Oh and I forgot to say that the same presenters are presenting the same shifts for ages and there is no
double- headed presentation anymore!


rightok32: You are in the minority, but as the quote above shows, there are a few other people who agree with you. I personally value the serious news channel approach Sky now have much more than the tabloid-style OTT news channel approach that some members would rather watch.

phil94: Theme music is nowhere near as important as the presentation of interviews and correspondents reporting. It seems to me that your priorities for a news channel - that is a channel that informs viewers of serious news stories - are completely wrong. Are you genuinely telling me you would rather watch a channel with short shifts, constantly changing studios, glitzy graphics and twice as many presenters? It really baffles me that the only thing you like about Sky News is a 20-second TOTH graphic.

This is TV Forum - predominantly concerned with TV presentation. Most of us members don't give diddly squat about interviews and reporting, we are more interested in graphics, sets, and titles. I don't think any of us really think any of that is the most important part of a TV News channel, but it's what we're interested in. That's why we're here.
SK
skyviewer
Moz posted:

This is TV Forum - predominantly concerned with TV presentation. Most of us members don't give diddly squat about interviews and reporting, we are more interested in graphics, sets, and titles. I don't think any of us really think any of that is the most important part of a TV News channel, but it's what we're interested in. That's why we're here.


Excellent post!
TW
Tom W
phil94 posted:
Moz posted:

This is TV Forum - predominantly concerned with TV presentation. Most of us members don't give diddly squat about interviews and reporting, we are more interested in graphics, sets, and titles. I don't think any of us really think any of that is the most important part of a TV News channel, but it's what we're interested in. That's why we're here.


Excellent post!


And I think we all agree with it. However, mentioning the same things about weather sponsorship/graphics going into the breaks/VoiceOver/not having double heading/Paula not being in the Press office website/music/consistent rota is not what the majority are interested in. By all means, mention it once but ad nauseum it becomes tiring and quite frankly boring.
SK
skyviewer
woodyuea posted:
phil94 posted:
Moz posted:

This is TV Forum - predominantly concerned with TV presentation. Most of us members don't give diddly squat about interviews and reporting, we are more interested in graphics, sets, and titles. I don't think any of us really think any of that is the most important part of a TV News channel, but it's what we're interested in. That's why we're here.


Excellent post!


And I think we all agree with it. However, mentioning the same things about weather sponsorship/graphics going into the breaks/VoiceOver/not having double heading/Paula not being in the Press office website/music/consistent rota is not what the majority are interested in. By all means, mention it once but ad nauseum it becomes tiring and quite frankly boring.

Is that a reference to what I've been posting in the last weeks?
JO
Joe
Yes, obviously. You're annoying us all.
SK
skyviewer
Joe posted:
Yes, obviously. You're annoying us all.


Oh really? I thought I was just entertaining the thread!
But then I would like to apologise for doing that!
SK
skyviewer
So do we expect the special graphics package for tonight? As one year ago?
GH
George Hill
phil94 posted:
So do we expect the special graphics package for tonight? As one year ago?


I can't imagine sky would miss the opportunity to do so. I haven't seen the channel for a few weeks, but have they been running any different election captions?
CI
cityprod
I have to question Sky's editorial judgement this weekend.

Tonight, they don't switch to Local Election coverage until Midnight. They decided that even the 11.30pm Press Preview was more important than the local elections.

Second, they have no special programming in place for either the French Presidential Election, or the perhaps more important to the future of the EuroZone, General Elections in Greece on Sunday. It's widely predicted that anti-austerity parties will get in there and the ramifications of those results on Sunday could be immense for the global economy and for the European Union. Yet no special coverage planned by Sky? Surely that's a slip up on their part.
SK
Sky786
cityprod posted:
I have to question Sky's editorial judgement this weekend.

Tonight, they don't switch to Local Election coverage until Midnight. They decided that even the 11.30pm Press Preview was more important than the local elections.

Second, they have no special programming in place for either the French Presidential Election, or the perhaps more important to the future of the EuroZone, General Elections in Greece on Sunday. It's widely predicted that anti-austerity parties will get in there and the ramifications of those results on Sunday could be immense for the global economy and for the European Union. Yet no special coverage planned by Sky? Surely that's a slip up on their part.


Im sure they'll cover it widely just like they did with the first round of election.
TH
Thomas
Moz posted:
This is TV Forum - predominantly concerned with TV presentation. Most of us members don't give diddly squat about interviews and reporting, we are more interested in graphics, sets, and titles. I don't think any of us really think any of that is the most important part of a TV News channel, but it's what we're interested in. That's why we're here.


From a presentation point of view it may be more interesting to have a varied news channel showing off glitzy graphics, a large set and lots of in-your-face extravagance, but when Sky is trying to be a serious and formal news channel that competes with the BBC, the things that make you as a member of TV Forum tick probably don't agree with the direction Sky News management want to take the channel.
Just look at the likes of Fox, who's OTT presentation means it has a ridiculously poor reputation as a news channel. Sky News and BBC News are valued much more highly than Fox because they present their channels as real news programmes that don't bombard you with exaggeration.

This is the point I was trying to get across. Phil94 seems to prefer a news channel that puts style over substance, which is something Sky simply won't do. I want to point out to him that his (continually repeated) priorities are in complete contrast with the style of presentation that Sky want. The graphics, sets, and titles that imply a serious, formal news channel.
CI
cityprod
Thomas posted:
This is the point I was trying to get across. Phil94 seems to prefer a news channel that puts style over substance, which is something Sky simply won't do.


But that's exactly what they did do in 2005 when they relaunched in their news Sky News Centre. Yes, they've learned their lesson from it at the moment, but broadcasting is full of instances when somebody comes into a channel and decides to re-invent the wheel. It could happen again at anytime.

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