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Relaunch & beyond (October 2005)

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CA
cat
P.s. Amusing how you say ''News 24 is the place where the real journalism happens''.

A few years ago the idea that real journalism got anywhere near 24 hour news channels would have been laughable... I'd argue that mostly it still is. I'd also suggest that there's more 'real journalism' on Sky News now than there was prerelaunch - in depth reports, different angles, etc.

The ''real'' journalism happens on Newsnight, Today, WATO, Panorama, etc.
HA
harshy Founding member
BTW Sky News have updated their international breakfiller, it's quite good graphically, just the transitions are not very smooth, but at least they have got around to it!
LO
Londoner
cat posted:
[Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4.

You're overlooking the TV outlet whose management have the biggest interest in watching Sky's biggest signing fail to deliver the goods...
CA
cat
Londoner posted:
cat posted:
[Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4.

You're overlooking the TV outlet whose management have the biggest interest in watching Sky's biggest signing fail to deliver the goods...


No, I'm not.

Given he talked of competing for guests with Rubin's show, I think we can safely rule GMTV out.

The day GMTV and a serious international news show are after the same guest isn't likely to come in any of our lifetimes.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
cat posted:
Londoner posted:
cat posted:
[Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4.

You're overlooking the TV outlet whose management have the biggest interest in watching Sky's biggest signing fail to deliver the goods...


No, I'm not.

Given he talked of competing for guests with Rubin's show, I think we can safely rule GMTV out.

The day GMTV and a serious international news show are after the same guest isn't likely to come in any of our lifetimes.
from memory "theblokewho" got well into the gmtv relaunch thread, infact, iirc he started the thread before it was announced elsewhere. it seems pretty likely to me he works at gmtv.
MS
msim
tvmercia posted:
it seems pretty likely to me he works at gmtv.


Indeed he has confirmed this in the GMTV relaunch he started:

Quote:
My source is I work at GMTV


Anyone who works for GMTV needs to think about their own stations 'news' output before they go onto criticise Sky!
CA
cat
One imagines GMTV management's motive for removing Sky from their cctv system is far from the quality of their news output, and more to do with a certain presenter the news channel now have.

At least now I know where this idiot works I don't feel compelled to take him seriously.
GR
gregmc
Was the Opt live at urrm 7pm, because the V/O missed off the Live, so was it a recorded bulletin?
:-(
A former member
who is incharge of GMTV News ?
NG
noggin Founding member
cat posted:
Londoner posted:
cat posted:
[Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4.

You're overlooking the TV outlet whose management have the biggest interest in watching Sky's biggest signing fail to deliver the goods...


No, I'm not.

Given he talked of competing for guests with Rubin's show, I think we can safely rule GMTV out.

The day GMTV and a serious international news show are after the same guest isn't likely to come in any of our lifetimes.


Though if you were working on the Sunday output of GMTV this wouldn't be THAT unlikely...
NG
noggin Founding member
cat posted:
theblokewhatwritesthenews posted:
Delenn posted:
Really? Are you joking? I had no idea.

I kid you not. it's most irritating. But I'm glad we're not rising to it and trying to outbid them.
When guests come back to us and say we can't do you because SN are offering cash for 'an exclusive appearance', we say good luck to you.
Some (especially those with a commercial agenda) realise that the best they are going to get is 14,000 viewers and and 3 minute interview with Ruben talking about 'inner-nesh-nal noos' - they soon come knocking with cherries on top, trust me.


Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4. Can't see Five taking Sky off their cctv service, you don't work for the BBC, ITV bosses saying ''News 24 is where the real journalism happens'' would kind of be a kick in the (few remaining) teeth for their own service, so by deduction it's Four. Do tell me if I'm wrong.

You are, of course, forgetting Sky's international viewers, which probably take it higher than Channel 4 every day. But still.

So assuming you are at Four, you're saying they've taken Sky off. Find it hard to believe, frankly. The idea that they are no longer a breaking news service is remarkably stupid - indeed, watching a few minutes ago I saw they were about ten minutes ahead on a statement from that Witchalls woman.

No offence to your bosses, but if they genuinely believe that Sky have stopped covering breaking news then they shouldn't really be in the business.


Surely ITV and Four would share the same ring-main, as they are in the same building and part of the same organisation (ITN)?
JA
jamesmd
noggin posted:
cat posted:
theblokewhatwritesthenews posted:
Delenn posted:
Really? Are you joking? I had no idea.

I kid you not. it's most irritating. But I'm glad we're not rising to it and trying to outbid them.
When guests come back to us and say we can't do you because SN are offering cash for 'an exclusive appearance', we say good luck to you.
Some (especially those with a commercial agenda) realise that the best they are going to get is 14,000 viewers and and 3 minute interview with Ruben talking about 'inner-nesh-nal noos' - they soon come knocking with cherries on top, trust me.


Right, so working from what you've said before, I'm guessing that you work for Channel 4. Can't see Five taking Sky off their cctv service, you don't work for the BBC, ITV bosses saying ''News 24 is where the real journalism happens'' would kind of be a kick in the (few remaining) teeth for their own service, so by deduction it's Four. Do tell me if I'm wrong.

You are, of course, forgetting Sky's international viewers, which probably take it higher than Channel 4 every day. But still.

So assuming you are at Four, you're saying they've taken Sky off. Find it hard to believe, frankly. The idea that they are no longer a breaking news service is remarkably stupid - indeed, watching a few minutes ago I saw they were about ten minutes ahead on a statement from that Witchalls woman.

No offence to your bosses, but if they genuinely believe that Sky have stopped covering breaking news then they shouldn't really be in the business.


Surely ITV and Four would share the same ring-main, as they are in the same building and part of the same organisation (ITN)?


Hang on - where are GMTV based, Mill Bank or Grey's Inn Road?

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