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Relaunch & beyond (October 2005)

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GI
gillw72
NewsUpdate posted:
WARNING RANT ALERT

I'm sorry but how much has Murdoch paid the Royal Television Society to name his wet drip of a news channel as 'News Channel of the Year'
The standard of journalism, presentation, technology has ebbed away over the past 18 months and has left Sky News looking like Fox News UK.
In the past, Sky had TWO anchors, proper news agendas, and an approach you could warm to and trust.
Now, its one anchor for four hours, with some poor munchkin reading the headlines and what Hillary from Bristol thinks about anti-social behavour.
The news agenda has been frittered away, in the past 12 months bulletins have been led with Britney Spears, Amy Winehouse and the other z listers no one really gives a hoot about.
Talks of saving money comes despite seeing people like Holmes and Murnaghan arrive on the channel, they could not have come cheap!
The company builds a huge news centre, with numerous presenting positions and now you are lucky to see two or three positions used during a day.
Decent journos and Sky stalwarts like Martin Stanford, Mark Longhurst and Paula Middleurst have been shunted away, programmes have been devised and axed within months of each other.
And what does the channel do when there is major breaking news, such as the death of Benazhir Bhutto? they go double-headed with two anchors!
The 2005 relaunch was brave, bold and put Sky News at the head of the game against BBC Snooze24, now both swim in a pool of mediocrity.
People do not need the same news stories every 15 mins, headlines yes, but not 15 minute repetitive cycle,
I cannot be bothered with this channel anymore and I sincerely hope it closes before we end up with Fox News UK.
There is no creative thought, just a pandering to the egos of princess Kay, Eammon Holmes and the like.
And now what are they doing to improve? going back to two anchors, introducing fresh shows to break up the boring schedule?
No, they have recruited ballet dancers to improve anchors posture and 'make them more authoritive'!
So Ryley saves money by employing as few presenters as possible and then fritters it away on pointless gimmicks like this!
I wish I was John Ryley - getting paid handsomely for ripping a former quality news channel to bits must be like taking candy from a baby.
Apologies for the post, I could not contain my feelings any longer.


No need to apologise, as far as I am concerned I agree with your comments - which is sad because this was once a great news channel.

I'll bet there is some head scratching going on a N24 this morning....
:-(
A former member
This makes me raise the question - what exactly do people want from a news channel? I get the impresson people want a News At Ten type programme every 30mins 24/7.

I think people get blurred between how news has to be done on a news channel, and that of a programme on lets say ITV1.
MO
Moz
onetrickpony posted:
This makes me raise the question - what exactly do people want from a news channel? I get the impresson people want a News At Ten type programme every 30mins 24/7.

I think people get blurred between how news has to be done on a news channel, and that of a programme on lets say ITV1.

Two presenters with a bit of chemistry between them would be a start. Then how about subtle graphics and decent titles?
MD
mdtauk
Also they need to make use of that Huge Studio of theirs. Podiums, the news desk, balcony, shoebox, walkway, views of the globe and the production desks.

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:-(
A former member
Moz posted:
onetrickpony posted:
This makes me raise the question - what exactly do people want from a news channel? I get the impresson people want a News At Ten type programme every 30mins 24/7.

I think people get blurred between how news has to be done on a news channel, and that of a programme on lets say ITV1.

Two presenters with a bit of chemistry between them would be a start. Then how about subtle graphics and decent titles?


I really don't care if there is chemistry, the set, the presenters, as long as they can provide rolling coverage of breaking news, have live pics and interviews in the event of a breaking story then thats good. Sadly they do same to have wavered on that a bit.
JO
Joshua
I agree Martin, if Dermot was paired up with Emma Crosby or another female anchor for instance, and they used the studio it would be so much better.

This is one of my favourite pictures, it looks really good and with the new newsroom background it would make the newsroom look much bigger.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/justjoshhh/snt-5.jpg

I also used to like when Kay was walking around the set, fair enough she still starts the programme from the steps, but she's only at the elbow. She used to be walking up and down the stairs, going to the mezz aswell. They've even stopped turning the desk around to the globe! I've always thought they could have turned the desk to the right a bit more, then you would have a great view of the newsroom.
GI
ginnyfan
I love that pic with Ginny ,Emma & Steve. The newsroom is very bussy in the afternnon and you can see it there. Now they are hiding the newsrooom and alll we get is a giant head of the presenter for 4 hours. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
BR
Brekkie
Do Sky ever rotate the desk now, or has it been locked in position in front of the screen for the last few months?
PH
phil-g
Steve Wright has been found guilty of the Suffolk Murders, Anna Botting presenting live from Ipswich. While Sky has generally been going down the pan recently despite the RTS awards, they are good at the type of breaking news. They also have a special programme at 8pm about the Suffolk Murders tonight.
SN
SN2005
Brekkie posted:
Do Sky ever rotate the desk now, or has it been locked in position in front of the screen for the last few months?


They used to use the globe backdrop on Saturdays and Sundays at 6pm long after it was stopped on Live at 5. They finally got rid of that element sometime over the summer, I think, or at least by October when the weekends went single-headed.
JO
Joshua
Nice to see Emma Crosby presenting Afternoon Live today.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
fanoftv posted:
Jugalug posted:
How would using less of the screen save money?

It'd cost the same for a studio, a presenter, reporters, all the same news gathering costs...


There was something floating around towards the end of the closure of the News Channel that with them wanting to add ITV4 (and subsequently CITV) to freeview, they needed the space, and said that one of the things that they could do would be to air the channel as a quarter screen (I suppose it would look something similar to watching a channel through teletext).


You mean how BBC Parliament used to look on Freeview before Auntie lowered the bitrate on the interactive streams to allow Parliament to go full-screen.

Realistically this wouldn't have freed up enough room for CITV/ITV4 at the time, at least not without them looking like Quiz Call did when it was a channel of its own on Freeview.

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I was also thinking along the lines of a smaller studio with locked off cameras so that you wouldn't need the production staff as much.


Similar to Play DJ on ITV Play and also the Ed and Oucho links on CBBC.
If Sky News starts looking like Play DJ, then either major budget cuts have been swung or the channel has lost the plot altogether.

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