JO
I probably need my eyes tested or my memory's bad, but I thought a red line separated the stories?
Brekkie Boy posted:
Re: logo. Personally I don't think it's required permanently on the DOG considering it scrolls across every few seconds as part of the ticker.
I doubt Sky chiefs see it that way though!
I doubt Sky chiefs see it that way though!
I probably need my eyes tested or my memory's bad, but I thought a red line separated the stories?
JL
It's only the lower 3rd thats changing on Monday?, not the titles. i think thats right
24:7 posted:
I think they're not bothering to put 'RTS News Channel of the Year' onto the titles, where it has 'First for Breaking News' because they might want to add it on when the new look arrives, so it starts a fresh - if you understand what I am saying.
It's only the lower 3rd thats changing on Monday?, not the titles. i think thats right
BR
I probably need my eyes tested or my memory's bad, but I thought a red line separated the stories?
I think I stand corrected - I'm probably thinking of the old ticker.
Anyhow - point still stands kind of - perhaps having the logo so it scrolls as part of the ticker would be a better way of incorporating it.
Jugalug posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Re: logo. Personally I don't think it's required permanently on the DOG considering it scrolls across every few seconds as part of the ticker.
I doubt Sky chiefs see it that way though!
I doubt Sky chiefs see it that way though!
I probably need my eyes tested or my memory's bad, but I thought a red line separated the stories?
I think I stand corrected - I'm probably thinking of the old ticker.
Anyhow - point still stands kind of - perhaps having the logo so it scrolls as part of the ticker would be a better way of incorporating it.
GI
From Media Guardian..
A series of furious emails have been circulated around the BBC about the RTS journalism awards, with allegations of juries being biased.
The memos follow what the head of television news, Peter Horrocks, told his staff was, "one of the grimmest nights in terms of BBC TV News performance," at Tuesday night's ceremony.
Yesterday the BBC began examining internally why the television news department had won just one award - cameraman of the year.
The emails reveal the extent to which the BBC feels wounded by winning just three awards overall, and the revamped News 24 losing out to Sky News in being named channel of the year.
In an email to staff, the BBC News 24 morning editor, Simon Waldman, said:
"Peter H [Horrocks] led a discussion at the 9.15 in the wake of what he called 'one of the grimmest nights in terms of BBC TV News performance' at the RTS. As you know, TV News won NOTHING - apart from the admirable Darren Conway winning cameraman of the year (again).
"Peter said it was particularly inexplicable, galling, and hurtful for our teams that News 24 had not won channel of the year - given the way we'd performed over the last 12 months, and the way the audience gap over Sky had grown; and also inexplicable that our Lebanon coverage was not even shortlisted."
Waldman went on: "There was a brief debate about the way the RTS juries are 'stacked' with an inbuilt anti-BBC bias (C4 and ITN; Five and Sky each get represented) - but we concentrated on two things: 1) we'd prefer to have the audiences than the gongs; 2) to get the gongs we need more domestic exclusive stories - and we need to showcase them."
He added: "Sky, apparently, decide in advance that some hours are to be 'RTS hours' - and they throw everything at them. Much scepticism over whether we should follow suit."
Waldman then said Horrocks had said TV news should "concentrate on uncovering more exclusives" particularly "exclusives which 'challenge those in power' and which therefore challenge the perception that BBC News has too cosy a relationship with those in authority."
The email added: "That, he thinks, is the type of original journalism that will win such prizes, and when we get those stories we have to make sure that we showcase them sufficiently."
The News 24 controller, Kevin Bakhurst, also sent an email to staff yesterday, trying to boost morale and adding to the debate about the perceived attitude of RTS juries towards the BBC.
"As you will also see, the BBC did pretty badly across the board and this reflects the kind of attitude towards the BBC that quite a few of us experienced on the juries from other broadcasters."
Bakhurst went on: "I would like to thank you all for the way you have reacted to this, particularly since like me I'm sure you feel it isn't a realistic reflection of the channel's performance over the last 12 months.
"I have had messages from quite a few more impartial observers who are pretty gob-smacked!"
Bakhurst then said Sky's morale was low and some staff were interested in joining the BBC.
"I spent a fair amount of time talking to the Sky News team at the dinner last night and they are very open about the damage that the Freeview decision could have on them. Many of them are very upset also about the way they have been treated by BSkyB: James Murdoch is visiting them today to try to explain the decision.
"And quite a few senior and prominent people there are still interested in coming here!"
A series of furious emails have been circulated around the BBC about the RTS journalism awards, with allegations of juries being biased.
The memos follow what the head of television news, Peter Horrocks, told his staff was, "one of the grimmest nights in terms of BBC TV News performance," at Tuesday night's ceremony.
Yesterday the BBC began examining internally why the television news department had won just one award - cameraman of the year.
The emails reveal the extent to which the BBC feels wounded by winning just three awards overall, and the revamped News 24 losing out to Sky News in being named channel of the year.
In an email to staff, the BBC News 24 morning editor, Simon Waldman, said:
"Peter H [Horrocks] led a discussion at the 9.15 in the wake of what he called 'one of the grimmest nights in terms of BBC TV News performance' at the RTS. As you know, TV News won NOTHING - apart from the admirable Darren Conway winning cameraman of the year (again).
"Peter said it was particularly inexplicable, galling, and hurtful for our teams that News 24 had not won channel of the year - given the way we'd performed over the last 12 months, and the way the audience gap over Sky had grown; and also inexplicable that our Lebanon coverage was not even shortlisted."
Waldman went on: "There was a brief debate about the way the RTS juries are 'stacked' with an inbuilt anti-BBC bias (C4 and ITN; Five and Sky each get represented) - but we concentrated on two things: 1) we'd prefer to have the audiences than the gongs; 2) to get the gongs we need more domestic exclusive stories - and we need to showcase them."
He added: "Sky, apparently, decide in advance that some hours are to be 'RTS hours' - and they throw everything at them. Much scepticism over whether we should follow suit."
Waldman then said Horrocks had said TV news should "concentrate on uncovering more exclusives" particularly "exclusives which 'challenge those in power' and which therefore challenge the perception that BBC News has too cosy a relationship with those in authority."
The email added: "That, he thinks, is the type of original journalism that will win such prizes, and when we get those stories we have to make sure that we showcase them sufficiently."
The News 24 controller, Kevin Bakhurst, also sent an email to staff yesterday, trying to boost morale and adding to the debate about the perceived attitude of RTS juries towards the BBC.
"As you will also see, the BBC did pretty badly across the board and this reflects the kind of attitude towards the BBC that quite a few of us experienced on the juries from other broadcasters."
Bakhurst went on: "I would like to thank you all for the way you have reacted to this, particularly since like me I'm sure you feel it isn't a realistic reflection of the channel's performance over the last 12 months.
"I have had messages from quite a few more impartial observers who are pretty gob-smacked!"
Bakhurst then said Sky's morale was low and some staff were interested in joining the BBC.
"I spent a fair amount of time talking to the Sky News team at the dinner last night and they are very open about the damage that the Freeview decision could have on them. Many of them are very upset also about the way they have been treated by BSkyB: James Murdoch is visiting them today to try to explain the decision.
"And quite a few senior and prominent people there are still interested in coming here!"