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Relaunch & beyond (October 2005)

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TW
Time Warp
cat posted:
Wouldn't be that new for Sky though. They did used to have a sting to introduce breaking news. It was ditched in the late 90s, though.

It sounds as though this set of graphics is going to be a bit more 'intelligent' than the previous ones.

I can see colour coding working for the very regular viewer, but for the passing viewer I think it could be quite confusing.

Would be interesting to know whether the graphics have been designed by journalists or designers. I suspect the latter, and that's why they'll probably be changed within a few weeks when the journalists realise they can't work with them very easily.


I really can't see colour coding working. How can a shooting in London be compared, for example, with 50 peple being killed in Iraq, or a takeover of a large business in terms of importance? There are countless types of breaking news, and I think it would be too hard to use a colour scale to analyse each story's significance.

Saying that, I could understand about using a different colour regarding a major story, suh as a terrorist attack, but the occurence of these are releatively rare.
MA
mark Founding member
I suppose they could use colours not to distinguish between importance of stories, but how 'breaking' the story actually is - like the difference between a 'news alert' and breaking news. For example...

YELLOW - "Tony Blair to speak shortly"

ORANGE - "Tony Blair making statement in the Commons"

RED - "Tony Blair sacks Gordon Brown"

And then maybe back to orange "Gordon Brown Sacked" when the news is a few hours old.
MD
mdtauk
Or the traffic lights idea. Green Yellow Red, with blue for other things, white for neutral.

So for example...
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/colourcodedstraps.jpg
AJ
AJ
martinDTanderson posted:
Or the traffic lights idea. Green Yellow Red, with blue for other things, white for neutral.

So for example...
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/colourcodedstraps.jpg


Not really keen on that green - the white text doesn't really show very well.
RT
rts Founding member
Good mocks Martin. Regarding the colour system, it's more for what flashes up on screen. "Bomb explodes at Downing Street" would have the BREAKING NEWS strap flash up immediately, as it does currently with all breaking stories at the moment.

Less urgent things however, such as "Owen scores goal against Arsenal" would come up in yellow (that's a guess) on the ticker, and be referred to by the presenter when they are in vision.
MD
mdtauk
rts posted:
Good mocks Martin. Regarding the colour system, it's more for what flashes up on screen. "Bomb explodes at Downing Street" would have the BREAKING NEWS strap flash up immediately, as it does currently with all breaking stories at the moment.

Less urgent things however, such as "Owen scores goal against Arsenal" would come up in yellow (that's a guess) on the ticker, and be referred to by the presenter when they are in vision.


So the ticker will change colours and flash up news alerts. Can you tell us if the default ticker colour is black, and what the DOG/Clock will be like, and what colours normal straps will be As it stands at the moment, and what they will look like.
RT
rts Founding member
In all honesty I don't know presise details about colour, style etc, but the general idea. And if I did it could all change! We will know when phase one, the new on-screen graphics, launch in the next week or two. Phase two which will include new opening titles etc will follow a few months later.
JO
Joshua
I hope when "Phase 2" kicks in they revert back to the old opening music and beds. I doubt they will, but they could of used the Showbiz sting for the opening, if they wanted a shorter one, which they obviously they did.
I also think these new titles will be more 'globe inspired', Paul did say they don't want to go back to the globe all the time, but using the globe in a diffrent perspective is what they would like to do. Suppose we can only wait and see!
GR
gregmc
josh205 posted:
I hope when "Phase 2" kicks in they revert back to the old opening music and beds. I doubt they will, but they could of used the Showbiz sting for the opening, if they wanted a shorter one, which they obviously they did.
I also think these new titles will be more 'globe inspired', Paul did say they don't want to go back to the globe all the time, but using the globe in a diffrent perspective is what they would like to do. Suppose we can only wait and see!


Or they could use the vast amounts of unused stings/mnemonics and titles, which sound far better than the current bland crap. I have a feeling it might be something new... in the style of the new coming up/online trailers they use into ad breaks.
DV
DVEous
LONDON posted:
rts posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
She's also employed by Five, not Sky, IIRC!

Anyone working at Five News is employed by BSKYB.


Actually i believe she is contracted to five, hence why she was able to move from ITN to Sky News when five changed provider. I believe she has a similar contract to Trevor McDonald, who when on the news was actually contracted to itv instead of ITN.


The above is correct. The same applies for Lara Lewington
GR
gregmc
Just to note, Kay Burley got voted out of Dancing on Ice tonight. She had a few falls before the live show too. She did well.
JO
Joshua
If there was a award for determination, she would have won it!
By the way, is the Sky News Viewpoint blog working?

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