CA
I agree with you about Sky News Today.. still one of the best news programmes they’ve ever produced
But the 2002-5 era.. eww. (remember “SKY NEWS FLASH BREAKING NEWS”?)
I think the journalism on the channel is better than ever, and that’s what matters most.
The presentation is so dry though. Simple and clean is fine, but they’ve taken it to the extreme - look at SVT or Franceinfo or Bloomberg for how it can be executed well
What puzzles me most about TOTH is that part of the sequence is from the iPad “timeline” app feature.. which hasn’t existed on the app for over a year now.
And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
But the 2002-5 era.. eww. (remember “SKY NEWS FLASH BREAKING NEWS”?)
I think the journalism on the channel is better than ever, and that’s what matters most.
The presentation is so dry though. Simple and clean is fine, but they’ve taken it to the extreme - look at SVT or Franceinfo or Bloomberg for how it can be executed well
What puzzles me most about TOTH is that part of the sequence is from the iPad “timeline” app feature.. which hasn’t existed on the app for over a year now.
And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
LL
And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
I don't mind the evening paper reviews which at least are setting the next day's news agenda, the ones on Sunrise are nonsensical. There's only so much Kevin Adams or somebody else as banal I can stand.
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And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
I don't mind the evening paper reviews which at least are setting the next day's news agenda, the ones on Sunrise are nonsensical. There's only so much Kevin Adams or somebody else as banal I can stand.
TT
Having just got home from work to catch up on the days political news, I find Sky News are showing some kind of filler? Honestly? Today? How the mighty has fallen.
Honestly Sky News needed to dial back the over the top presentation and I feel they got it right a few years ago since 2002-2005 was dreadful and I can't see how some people like it.
But on one of the most dramatic political days in recent memory, to cut away from it as the story is developing would have been unheard of a few years ago.
The problem is that these days it feels like breaking news is further down the list of priorities than having a rigid schedule. It's not First for breaking news anymore, because when news breaks, the BBC will break it but Sky will wait 30-60 minutes for their filler to finish.
As for Sunrise, I don't like the weekday format at all - there are lots of presenters who Sky could use to make a duo work during the week a two person show. It's just pretty stale and boring in the mornings.
Kay's meeting parts are excellent though, probably the only inovation that I've liked in the last 12 months.
Honestly Sky News needed to dial back the over the top presentation and I feel they got it right a few years ago since 2002-2005 was dreadful and I can't see how some people like it.
But on one of the most dramatic political days in recent memory, to cut away from it as the story is developing would have been unheard of a few years ago.
The problem is that these days it feels like breaking news is further down the list of priorities than having a rigid schedule. It's not First for breaking news anymore, because when news breaks, the BBC will break it but Sky will wait 30-60 minutes for their filler to finish.
As for Sunrise, I don't like the weekday format at all - there are lots of presenters who Sky could use to make a duo work during the week a two person show. It's just pretty stale and boring in the mornings.
Kay's meeting parts are excellent though, probably the only inovation that I've liked in the last 12 months.
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BF
And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
I don't mind the evening paper reviews which at least are setting the next day's news agenda, the ones on Sunrise are nonsensical. There's only so much Kevin Adams or somebody else as banal I can stand.
Indeed the evening reviews I quite like and are normally interesting enough and about the bigger stories of the day or upcoming stories and work as a wind down for the day.
The morning reviews are utterly inane and take up far too much of the hour when surely all most people want at that time of the day is the news, sport and weather.
And hours of the day given over to newspaper reviews. Few read hard copy papers any more and even the Today programme now embraces reviewing websites.
I don't mind the evening paper reviews which at least are setting the next day's news agenda, the ones on Sunrise are nonsensical. There's only so much Kevin Adams or somebody else as banal I can stand.
Indeed the evening reviews I quite like and are normally interesting enough and about the bigger stories of the day or upcoming stories and work as a wind down for the day.
The morning reviews are utterly inane and take up far too much of the hour when surely all most people want at that time of the day is the news, sport and weather.
BF
As for Sunrise, I don't like the weekday format at all - there are lots of presenters who Sky could use to make a duo work during the week a two person show. It's just pretty stale and boring in the mornings.
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It's odd as I think the weekend Sunrise is actually pretty good - Stephen and Gillian work really together and it's normally a pretty fun but still informative watch and even when one of the two is off it's still very watchable (Tom and Gillian were good together this past weekend and I remember Kimberley and Stephen working quite well a few weeks back).
Whereas the weekday Sunrise is the exact opposite and just a chore to watch and seems to lack any energy.
As for Sunrise, I don't like the weekday format at all - there are lots of presenters who Sky could use to make a duo work during the week a two person show. It's just pretty stale and boring in the mornings.
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It's odd as I think the weekend Sunrise is actually pretty good - Stephen and Gillian work really together and it's normally a pretty fun but still informative watch and even when one of the two is off it's still very watchable (Tom and Gillian were good together this past weekend and I remember Kimberley and Stephen working quite well a few weeks back).
Whereas the weekday Sunrise is the exact opposite and just a chore to watch and seems to lack any energy.
LL
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Jonathan Samuels is an excellent reporter, but his skills don't transfer well to presenting.
Sarah-Jane Mee I thought at first was a sports presenter thrown into the deep end, but she soon had the gravitas to present Sunrise after the Westminster Bridge attack.
Personally I'd axe the second presenter role on weekdays, it brings nothing to the show, while SJM could present the other stories, while weekends should stay as it is.
Sarah-Jane Mee I thought at first was a sports presenter thrown into the deep end, but she soon had the gravitas to present Sunrise after the Westminster Bridge attack.
Personally I'd axe the second presenter role on weekdays, it brings nothing to the show, while SJM could present the other stories, while weekends should stay as it is.
TT
I think Sarah Jane has done well since her early days as a Sports presenter, she's took to news really well and think she's one of Sky's best these days and totally would rate her now.
I agree about Jonathan Samuels, never really been convinced he is good at presenting. That's not a slight against him though, he's an excellent reporter and I'm sure if you put some presenters in reporter roles they wouldn't do as well as him.
It's a question of Sky using it's portfolio of talent in the best way - in the same way that some presenters are well suited to Kay's style of program and some are not, some are better at laid back than others and some are better at breaking news and interviews than others.
I'm just not convinced that Jonathan is a great presenter and honestly, Niall really impressed me covering for Sophy Ridge, honestly surprised me at first, but I can see him easily being the perm replacement for Adam Boulton when it comes to political interviews in the future as well as being more than capable of standing in for Sophy Ridge.
In summary - I think Sunrise week format is very poor - think they've either got to go for one person or a full two people - the current set-up just feels the worst of both worlds and JS almost looks tagged on.
I agree about Jonathan Samuels, never really been convinced he is good at presenting. That's not a slight against him though, he's an excellent reporter and I'm sure if you put some presenters in reporter roles they wouldn't do as well as him.
It's a question of Sky using it's portfolio of talent in the best way - in the same way that some presenters are well suited to Kay's style of program and some are not, some are better at laid back than others and some are better at breaking news and interviews than others.
I'm just not convinced that Jonathan is a great presenter and honestly, Niall really impressed me covering for Sophy Ridge, honestly surprised me at first, but I can see him easily being the perm replacement for Adam Boulton when it comes to political interviews in the future as well as being more than capable of standing in for Sophy Ridge.
In summary - I think Sunrise week format is very poor - think they've either got to go for one person or a full two people - the current set-up just feels the worst of both worlds and JS almost looks tagged on.
