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London Lite10,370 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Is it really that hard to schedule something else in the running order on Sunrise? This could so easily be another VT or an extra sports bulletin. Still it saves on the appearance fees for Liz Kershaw and Kevin Adams.
richard h1,402 posts since 11 Apr 2003
Is it really that hard to schedule something else in the running order on Sunrise? This could so easily be another VT or an extra sports bulletin. Still it saves on the appearance fees for Liz Kershaw and Kevin Adams.


Anything but another sports bulletin. I get sick of it rammed down out throats every hour as it is
richard h1,402 posts since 11 Apr 2003
Faisal Islam just confronted a protestor who called Theresa May a traitor and treason. Personally I don't think Faisal came out of it looking good but that's my opinion which i'm sure others will disagree with which is fair enough.
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BFGArmy327 posts since 15 Jan 2018
London London
Is it really that hard to schedule something else in the running order on Sunrise? This could so easily be another VT or an extra sports bulletin. Still it saves on the appearance fees for Liz Kershaw and Kevin Adams.


Yep from the ways when I watched Sunrise a fair bit the BOTH is frequently a mess on Sunrise - the sports bulletin is 2-3 minutes long no matter how much sport goes on the previous night and then the weather forecast is a minute long (or two if you're lucky) before they then crash straight into a break without any 'coming up'.

Sunrise really could be so much better than it currently is
Reece24281 posts since 16 Mar 2017
Anglia (West) Look East
Faisal Islam just confronted a protestor who called Theresa May a traitor and treason. Personally I don't think Faisal came out of it looking good but that's my opinion which i'm sure others will disagree with which is fair enough.


I agree with you. Faisal kept digging himself into a hole which he struggled to get out of.

On a different note, The Kay Burley Show (so far) today has been excellent. Kay and Beth Rigby are a great pairing.
Rkolsen2,721 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World
I’m watching Sky News via the Apple TV app and I’ve noticed that their breaking news ticker seems to stagger and flicker at points. The rest of the graphics and video (including high motion) come through perfectly. Is this normal? Or some 50hz to 59.94hz conversion issue?
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noggin14,318 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I’m watching Sky News via the Apple TV app and I’ve noticed that their breaking news ticker seems to stagger and flicker at points. The rest of the graphics and video (including high motion) come through perfectly. Is this normal? Or some 50hz to 59.94hz conversion issue?


What platform are you watching on?

The ticker looks juddery as heck on an Apple TV 4K outputting at 50Hz to a 50Hz capable display - and the tvOS developer HUD confirms that the source stream 720p25.

Absolutely nothing is smooth at 25p, but the ticker is particularly bad as it's too fast for 25fps... It must look horrific at 59.94Hz with added 25->59.94Hz judder.

it's a pity Sky News don't follow the BBC's lead and stream at 720p50 (deinterlaced from 1080i25), which delivers twice the temporal resolution, and ensures the ticker stays smooth.

(Sky's deinterlacing from i25 to p25 is quite 'jerky' so they may not be optimised for motion and instead for resolution, though the bitrate is generous at 4.8Mbs for the video)
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Rkolsen2,721 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World
I’m watching Sky News via the Apple TV app and I’ve noticed that their breaking news ticker seems to stagger and flicker at points. The rest of the graphics and video (including high motion) come through perfectly. Is this normal? Or some 50hz to 59.94hz conversion issue?


What platform are you watching on?

The ticker looks juddery as heck on an Apple TV 4K outputting at 50Hz to a 50Hz capable display - and the tvOS developer HUD confirms that the source stream 720p25.

Absolutely nothing is smooth at 25p, but the ticker is particularly bad as it's too fast for 25fps... It must look horrific at 59.94Hz with added 25->59.94Hz judder.

it's a pity Sky News don't follow the BBC's lead and stream at 720p50 (deinterlaced from 1080i25), which delivers twice the temporal resolution, and ensures the ticker stays smooth.

(Sky's deinterlacing from i25 to p25 is quite 'jerky' so they may not be optimised for motion and instead for resolution, though the bitrate is generous at 4.8Mbs for the video)

I’m using the previous generation AppleTV outputting 1080p60 (as is the North American standard). The ticker looks better with the white background.

That being said I’d like Comcast to launch it as a channel even if it’s SD widescreen where you have to use the “zoom” function (take a letterboxed Sky feed in 4:3, press zoom to fill the screen).
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