It even had a county council between 1974 and 1986!
Though you also get plenty of people who refuse to aknowledge the West Midlands, Greater Manchester and Merseyside are counties too and insist that they still live in the pre-1974 counties (the amount of times I've had people from and around Manchester insist they're in Lanacashire and Stockport in Cheshire). And Greater London too. Something about those metropolitan counties gets people riled.
Must be a Northern thing, you really don't get it much here in the West Midlands. Maybe more-so in Coventry.
And Humberside was a county people most definatly pretended didn't exist during its short life!
Hereford and Worcester wasn't a popular county either... and many people in Rutland weren't happy about their county being part of Leicestershire.
As regards the Ridings of Yorkshire, the word "riding" is derived from an Old Norse word meaning "a third-part". And, of course, Yorkshire was occupied by the Danes over a thousand years ago.
Must be a Northern thing, you really don't get it much here in the West Midlands. Maybe more-so in Coventry.
Quite.
There are numerous "Coventry & Warwickshire" organisations/initiatives/schemes etc whilst meanwhile many "West Midlands" ones mainly/only relate to Solihull-and-westwards. Not least of all BBC Local Radio. In many ways, it's effectively as if Cov is actually still in Warwickshire.
County-based pride seems to be a big thing amongst folk from certain counties and less so or not at all for others. A totally alien mindset, to me.
At least Sky are referring to Sheffield as being in South Yorkshire.
What is worse in my eyes is when the London centric media just refer to somewhere as being in "Yorkshire"
There definitely isn't a county called Yorkshire, it's almost as if they think there is and South Yorkshire just means the south bit of Yorkshire, like you might say East London.
Yet they will then go on to report on some knife/gun crime in London and pin point it to the specific London borough.
I understand what you’re saying but is that not people using the term “Yorkshire” as a region? Like they may the North East, the North West or the East Midlands.
Having said that I do hate when the national news give really localised information for a London Story. For instance, there’ll be a stabbing in South Croydon and you’ll get the place information in that detail, not just “South London”. But whereas if that was in other areas I’d just get “County Durham” they often wouldn’t go further than that.
There definitely isn't a county called Yorkshire, it's almost as if they think there is and South Yorkshire just means the south bit of Yorkshire, like you might say East London.
As someone born in Leeds nearly 40 years ago and having lived in Huddersfield for around 20 years, that's BS. Yorkshire is definitely a thing, and we are happy to accept those in Saddleworth and beyond who still celebrate Yorkshire Day despite the boundary changes moving them to the darkside some years ago.
There definitely isn't a
county
called Yorkshire, it's almost as if they think there is and South Yorkshire just means the south bit of Yorkshire, like you might say East London.
As someone born in Leeds nearly 40 years ago and having lived in Huddersfield for around 20 years, that's BS. Yorkshire is definitely a
thing
Andrew was clearly saying that there is not a single
county
called just Yorkshire (which is correct, as there are four different counties each with at least one other word in front of the word Yorkshire), and he most certainly did not say that Yorkshire wasn't even "a
thing
" at all. You're rebuffing him for something that
isn't
what the wording that he used actually sodding well said, which is ludicrous.
As in "Kingston-upon-..."?! (Which is definately not in the West Riding...)*
By the way, what the blithering flip is a "Riding" of a county anyway? I've never heard of such a thing in relation to anywhere but Yorkshire. Did Yorkshire folk just make it up, or something?
Did Yorkshire have only three Ridings (i.e. N/W/E, but no S)? Where do they begin/end in relation to present-day counties?
Does the present day county of ERoY truly correspond to the historic East Riding?
*EDIT: Speaking of that Humber-proximate city... As it is usual (and most logical) to shorten "Town-upon-River" to just the "Town" bit, why does Hull go against the grain? (Surely it's the only place that does this?) Technically, doesn't e.g. "I live in Hull" mean you must live in the actual river?!
A riding is an Old English term meaning "a third", with similar origins as "farthing" (quarter). It's not just a term used in Yorkshire - Canada has Riding Associations, for example.
To stray back on topic, I was watching at the time that map appeared. It also appeared during the headline sequence, where it zoomed down from the UK level. It appeared to be highlighting some sort of region, but it wasn't abundantly clear as it was zooming, as the whole of the UK was highlighted red at first.
I’m originally from Barnsley and South Yorkshire definitely is a county. Barnsley folk are Yorkshire (as a whole) through and through but there has never been a defiance against being part of the county of South Yorkshire. However, as a proud town, there would almost certainly have been a backlash had the county been named Greater Sheffield.
I now live in Greater Manchester. Older folk in places like Oldham and Bolton still say they live in Lancashire. Eastern parts of Trafford identify as Manchester as do people in the meaninglessly named borough of Tameside. Parts of Tameside still have Cheshire addresses and some love that..... even though Tameside Cheshire is fat removed from the Jetset.
And then you have Glossop. Many defiantly Derbyshire with others regarding themselves as Manc..... particularly those who relocated to the sink estates.
Generally though, younger folk regard themselves as being from Manchester and ‘town’ generally means Central Manchester.
Administratively, Yorkshire may have been broken up into a jigsaw of different jurisdictions and 'ceremonial counties', but the identity of a single Yorkshire for those who identify with it is strong, enduring and persists to this day.
I think there is a case for defining Yorkshire as a 'nation', as in "a stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, ethnicity, or psychological make-up manifested in a common culture".
