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Sir Trevor McDonald retires from ITN

"And that's the way it looks tonight..." (December 2005)

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MD
mdtauk
p_c_u_k posted:
I think you're being slightly melodramatic there.

Sure, the bosses of ITV clearly have no interest in ITN or news - it doesn't bring in money, doesn't keep their shareholders happy, etc etc. Their handling is certainly under question.

But I think the product ITV News produces, considering its very limited budget in comparison, is very good. It is consistently more watchable, IMHO, than the BBC News at 10, it takes the trouble to explain to viewers exactly what is going on with complicated stories (the EU rebate being a good example), the reporters are always told to make the story relate to the viewer, and it's a more pleasing watch. Is making news relavant to the viewer dumbing down?

They have also produced a series of good stories, even some exclusives like the London bombing report. OK, I wish that, when they got them, they would stop crowing about it forever, but you can't deny they're doing a good job with what they've got. Even the head of Sky admits they're doing well.

Sure, there could be more international news, and the bulletin could be longer, but again, ITN are working within the framework set by ITV there.

I certainly don't think, at the moment, that it should be in any way abandon ship time. The staff at ITN are doing a very good job given the difficult circumstances they find themselves in.

Never been an ITV News fan, always seemed to down market to me, a little patronising. Also their regional news, having competitions! I'm sorry but that just isnt right to me...
AN
all new Phil
That's because they're intended as a regional magazine show, not a solid half-hour of news. That's how they have always been - certainly the ones I've seen anyway - and there is a very strong audience for that. To be honest as well, it's an argument you could just as easily level at BBC regional news shows, I've seen loads of competitions on Look North for example.

And I do hate it when people complain about ITV News being downmarket. Why do you think that? There is this constant thing about it being full of celebrity news - this is not the case. They cater (extremely well) for the audience - yes, they could focus solely on deadly-serious news and not make any room for light-hearted stories if they wished to, but there is an audience for what they do and, like it or not, it is all news. If you want the deadly serious stuff then please, stick to BBC News. I most certainly don't see how such an ardent Sky News fan as you, however, feels they can accuse ITV News of being something that Sky News is much more of.
LO
Londoner
Chris Shaw on Trevor's retirement:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/comment/0,7493,1668962,00.html?gusrc=rss

Quote:
He spent his final day in the newsroom answering a flood of emails and calls from well-wishers, posing for photos with floor managers and signing autographs for colleagues.

ITV top brass and his long-term chief writer came in especially to work on his final show. The programme ran normally and smoothly, which is what he had said he wanted.
[snip]
Then it was the traditional Sir Trevor sign-off - "And that's the way it looks tonight" - with the briefest of thank-yous for all the good-will messages.

Upstairs in the newsroom, around 60 ITN managers and colleagues, plus Simon Shaps, the new director of television at ITV, cheered as Sir Trevor came up from the studio for the last time, before champagne and Kettle Chips were passed around.
GE
thegeek Founding member
Lee posted:
Here it is again. It's nice to hear the old theme, but strange hearing it with "modern" graphics!
Ta for posting that..
What looks a little odd is the camera pulling in at the end, with the lights going down - when I think I'd expect it to pull out instead.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
thegeek posted:
Lee posted:
Here it is again. It's nice to hear the old theme, but strange hearing it with "modern" graphics!
Ta for posting that..
What looks a little odd is the camera pulling in at the end, with the lights going down - when I think I'd expect it to pull out instead.


Yeah, that was presumably the director giving us one last look at Trevor.

It was a great signoff and end to the programme last night. Short and succinct and the use of the 1992-1999 News at Ten closing theme was excellent. A really nice touch.
NI
Nicky
A nice end to his last bulletin indeed - farewell, Sir Trevor.
BP
Bob Paisley
I would've loved it if Trevor had lost it big-time at the end of the bulletin and let rip into ITV for pissing news about on ITV and generally crapping all over ITN. It's well known he was very miffed about News at Ten going - and didn't like the removal of the ITN brand. Although what with him continuing to present Tonight I accept it would be unlikely.

He's a funny one old Sir Trev. Practically no one in the industry rated him as a newsreader - and people at ITN thought he was a bit wooden - but the public loved him. Fundamentally proves that people running news no nothing.
SP
Spencer
Bob Paisley posted:
I would've loved it if Trevor had lost it big-time at the end of the bulletin and let rip into ITV for ****ing news about on ITV and generally crapping all over ITN. It's well known he was very miffed about News at Ten going - and didn't like the removal of the ITN brand. Although what with him continuing to present Tonight I accept it would be unlikely.


I was hoping he might have paid tribute to all his colleagues at ITN. It would have been a nice touch considering the bad news they received this week, and I don't think it would have ruffled any feathers.
AN
Andrew Founding member
itsrobert posted:
thegeek posted:
Lee posted:
Here it is again. It's nice to hear the old theme, but strange hearing it with "modern" graphics!
Ta for posting that..
What looks a little odd is the camera pulling in at the end, with the lights going down - when I think I'd expect it to pull out instead.


Yeah, that was presumably the director giving us one last look at Trevor.

It was a great signoff and end to the programme last night. Short and succinct and the use of the 1992-1999 News at Ten closing theme was excellent. A really nice touch.

The way they timed the old music exactly with the graphics on the news wall made it even better. They don't get the timing right sometimes with the normal music
:-(
A former member
Here is the News At 10.30 in Full
http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/34913035925.wmv
JH
Jonathan H
Bob Paisley posted:
He's a funny one old Sir Trev. Practically no one in the industry rated him as a newsreader - and people at ITN thought he was a bit wooden - but the public loved him. Fundamentally proves that people running news no nothing.


Er, not really. Perhaps Sir Trev is a bit wooden and some in the industry didn't rate him, but the public loved him in spite of that.
AD
Adam
onetrickpony posted:
Here is the News At 10.30 in Full
http://upload3.putfile.com/videos/34913035925.wmv


Why?


It's bad enough being in WMV and on Putfile, but to post the whole thing?! Rolling Eyes

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