ST
I agree. But it's interesting to note how closely the news channels are following the rapid developments now:
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/shannon.jpg
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
salfordjohn posted:
Come on guys
What has any of the above got to do with how TV News is reporting this case?? This is not the place for insults against the family and their friends.
What has any of the above got to do with how TV News is reporting this case?? This is not the place for insults against the family and their friends.
I agree. But it's interesting to note how closely the news channels are following the rapid developments now:
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/shannon.jpg
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
IS
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
Yes, a lot of people are going to feel cheated and sadly that mud will wtick no matter what the outcome of any trials.
The other sad thing is that, like the Madeline case, the media focus has moved away from the poor child and onto the exploits of the parents. I did read something about Shannon being fairly happy with her foster family but it's still not ideal.
Also if they're boarding up the house, now that Karen and her 'partner' are in custidy and Shannon is in care, what about the rest of the family, anyone know who's looking after the rest of her kids?
StuartPlymouth posted:
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
Yes, a lot of people are going to feel cheated and sadly that mud will wtick no matter what the outcome of any trials.
The other sad thing is that, like the Madeline case, the media focus has moved away from the poor child and onto the exploits of the parents. I did read something about Shannon being fairly happy with her foster family but it's still not ideal.
Also if they're boarding up the house, now that Karen and her 'partner' are in custidy and Shannon is in care, what about the rest of the family, anyone know who's looking after the rest of her kids?
ST
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
Yes, a lot of people are going to feel cheated and sadly that mud will wtick no matter what the outcome of any trials.
The other sad thing is that, like the Madeline case, the media focus has moved away from the poor child and onto the exploits of the parents. I did read something about Shannon being fairly happy with her foster family but it's still not ideal.
Also if they're boarding up the house, now that Karen and her 'partner' are in custidy and Shannon is in care, what about the rest of the family, anyone know who's looking after the rest of her kids?
I understand that all Karen Matthews' children (including Shannon) were put under a court order at the end of last week meaning that the media is unable to discuss what's happened / happening to them - which probably explains the lack of discussion on that aspect.
Steve
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
StuartPlymouth posted:
Latest reports are that Police are posting leaflets to residents advising them not to "take the law into their own hands"; I'm assuming there is very little 'support' and rather a lot of animosity in the community now. The family home is now being boarded up by council workers to prevent vandalism.
Yes, a lot of people are going to feel cheated and sadly that mud will wtick no matter what the outcome of any trials.
The other sad thing is that, like the Madeline case, the media focus has moved away from the poor child and onto the exploits of the parents. I did read something about Shannon being fairly happy with her foster family but it's still not ideal.
Also if they're boarding up the house, now that Karen and her 'partner' are in custidy and Shannon is in care, what about the rest of the family, anyone know who's looking after the rest of her kids?
I understand that all Karen Matthews' children (including Shannon) were put under a court order at the end of last week meaning that the media is unable to discuss what's happened / happening to them - which probably explains the lack of discussion on that aspect.
ST
This should really start a debate about the advantages and disadvantages of excessive media coverage where missing children are concerned.
There are benefits in making the public aware of a situation, and that could help to locate the missing youngster.
There is the chance that such coverage whips up public feeling into
mob mentality mode
, for good or ill depending on the outcome.
There is the possibility that it encourages people to think of creating circumstances which would cause media attention to fall on themselves, for whatever personal gain.
There are benefits in making the public aware of a situation, and that could help to locate the missing youngster.
There is the chance that such coverage whips up public feeling into
mob mentality mode
, for good or ill depending on the outcome.
There is the possibility that it encourages people to think of creating circumstances which would cause media attention to fall on themselves, for whatever personal gain.
PC
I can't see what the media has done wrong here, to be honest. A girl went missing, they were asked by the police to provide publicity for her safe recovery, girl came back.
Now if (a big if - nothing has been proven yet) there's something a little dodgy about the situation, that ain't the media's fault - that's the fault of anyone who happens to be convicted.
I don't know what you could suggest the media do differently next time.
Incidentally, I'm finding it interesting that we are still referring to her as Shannon's mother. Normally in any court case involving a child, especially neglect, you wouldn't have the child named. I don't know if the media down south has been given specific instructions that they can do this, or whether they have decided its blatantly obvious who they're referring to.
The laws seem to be applied more strictly in Scotland, and as such I suspect the coverage of anything similar would be very different up here.
Now if (a big if - nothing has been proven yet) there's something a little dodgy about the situation, that ain't the media's fault - that's the fault of anyone who happens to be convicted.
I don't know what you could suggest the media do differently next time.
Incidentally, I'm finding it interesting that we are still referring to her as Shannon's mother. Normally in any court case involving a child, especially neglect, you wouldn't have the child named. I don't know if the media down south has been given specific instructions that they can do this, or whether they have decided its blatantly obvious who they're referring to.
The laws seem to be applied more strictly in Scotland, and as such I suspect the coverage of anything similar would be very different up here.
ST
I think possibly, PCUK, they should consider keeping the parents out of the media in such cirumstances. In both the high profile cases in the last 12 months we've seen the parents subjected to alot of media attention. It's the missing child that's important, after all. You're not going to find the child any easier by recognising the parent from constant TV appearances.
I think we're all intelligent enough to assume that the parents would be distraught (assuming they hadn't murdered/hidden their own child).
I think we're all intelligent enough to assume that the parents would be distraught (assuming they hadn't murdered/hidden their own child).
PC
Well the logic of involving the parents is that you put a human face to the tragedy and put pressure on anyone who knows anything to come forward. It's a sad thing to say, but if you have a sobbing parent in front of a camera you are more likely to get a response than if you get a bland press release. It is also a two-way street - news media requires constant updates to keep a story in the papers. If they only get occasionally briefings from the police that's going to result in a few paragraphs, rather than a prominent story, which will not help trace any child.
The other handy side-effect of involving the community is occasionally body language giving something away... see the Sky News interviews with Ian Huntley.
The other handy side-effect of involving the community is occasionally body language giving something away... see the Sky News interviews with Ian Huntley.
BA
Bail
Moderator
Just another gentle reminder that this thread/forum is for discussing the presentation side of things. Not to get in to the rights/wrongs of the people involved, or anything "That you reckon." Posts that could be deemed offensive have been removed.
If you wish to debate the media coverage, I suggest Metropol 24//7
If you wish to debate the media coverage, I suggest Metropol 24//7
IS
Yes and the police have been known to put parents/relatives on the TV in appeal press conferences for that very reason. There's a current case (in court at the moment so I'll be careful!) where the person who ended up being charged with organising the murder was the person appealing for information into the death!
p_c_u_k posted:
Well the logic of involving the parents is that you put a human face to the tragedy and put pressure on anyone who knows anything to come forward. It's a sad thing to say, but if you have a sobbing parent in front of a camera you are more likely to get a response than if you get a bland press release. It is also a two-way street - news media requires constant updates to keep a story in the papers. If they only get occasionally briefings from the police that's going to result in a few paragraphs, rather than a prominent story, which will not help trace any child.
The other handy side-effect of involving the community is occasionally body language giving something away... see the Sky News interviews with Ian Huntley.
The other handy side-effect of involving the community is occasionally body language giving something away... see the Sky News interviews with Ian Huntley.
Yes and the police have been known to put parents/relatives on the TV in appeal press conferences for that very reason. There's a current case (in court at the moment so I'll be careful!) where the person who ended up being charged with organising the murder was the person appealing for information into the death!
IS
Incidentally, I'm finding it interesting that we are still referring to her as Shannon's mother. Normally in any court case involving a child, especially neglect, you wouldn't have the child named. I don't know if the media down south has been given specific instructions that they can do this, or whether they have decided its blatantly obvious who they're referring to.
Yes, but this is far from a normal case. The disappearance of Shannon was the original story, now it's moved on from there.
It would have been very difficult to arrest Shannon's mother, hold her in custody and then have a court case without anyone realising that she's not around any more! The local police couldn't ask everyone to forget Shannon's name either
p_c_u_k posted:
Incidentally, I'm finding it interesting that we are still referring to her as Shannon's mother. Normally in any court case involving a child, especially neglect, you wouldn't have the child named. I don't know if the media down south has been given specific instructions that they can do this, or whether they have decided its blatantly obvious who they're referring to.
Yes, but this is far from a normal case. The disappearance of Shannon was the original story, now it's moved on from there.
It would have been very difficult to arrest Shannon's mother, hold her in custody and then have a court case without anyone realising that she's not around any more! The local police couldn't ask everyone to forget Shannon's name either
PE
Ian Huntley appealed for help on telly if I'[m not mistaken
Pete
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
Yes and the police have been known to put parents/relatives on the TV in appeal press conferences for that very reason. There's a current case (in court at the moment so I'll be careful!) where the person who ended up being charged with organising the murder was the person appealing for information into the death!
Ian Huntley appealed for help on telly if I'[m not mistaken