The Newsroom

Saddam Sentenced

(November 2006)

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NG
noggin Founding member
faker posted:


Yep - different timezones / geographical areas have different programmes when they aren't taking the core news feed, some of these aren't broadcast in Europe. (Asia Business Report, Question Time India etc.)
NG
noggin Founding member
Newsroom posted:


I ask because they are both wearing poppys? Am I wrong about WORLD presenters not being allowed to wear poppys.



The ruling is normally that a presenter on a domestic outlet would be expected to wear a poppy unless they doesn't wish to. The guidance for BBC World is that the poppy means little to the BBC World audience - which doesn't include Great Britain - and would be potentially distracting, so in general World presenters on World-only output don't wear poppies, as they mean little to the World audience.

However guests on BBC World and News 24, BBC One, BBC Four etc. are both free to wear, or not wear poppies, if they so wish - and if they aren't wearing one on a domestic outlet they are normally offered one by the floor manager (in case it has fallen off or they've forgotten one and would wish to appear on-screen with one)

As both presenters are on domestic outlets, they would be expected to wear poppies, and the FM would have spares so a presenter hot-foot from the World gallery could get one.
JO
Jonathan
Oh gosh, presentation wise, this is awful. The two talking over eachother, awkward silences.
NE
Newsroom
Almost unbearable to watch in fact.

IMO - Wilcox should have more respect for the fact he has been joined by someone with so much experience. No doubt those inside the BBC will have noticed this mornings pantomime.
IO
Ian of old
Jonathan posted:
Oh gosh, presentation wise, this is awful. The two talking over eachother, awkward silences.


A lot of the awkward silences (11:56ish, 12:00, 12:25 etc) are obviously where World is leaving and joining. To anyone who knows this, they're handling it very well.

For anyone who doesn't, there are a lot of awkward silences and this is how most viewers would see it.

There really ought to be a better way of handling this now - News 24 and World simulcasts are hardly new.

Idea for when World leaves - before hand have a 30 second summary of the 'latest news' with repetitive headline bed. World cuts away, final images on screen continue, back to studio, bed fades out. Presenters continue on News 24. Easy.

Just before World joins - start a repetitive headline bed (i.e. just something simple where World could join at any point at it wouldn't sound odd - e.g. the 1999-2003 domestic bed). For two seconds this wouldn't sound odd. If this needs about five seconds, why not cut to the swirly globe thing used as a bumper between headlines graphics - use that for a few seconds, then when World are in apply thunderclaps and launch into headlines. (Similar thing was used during the BBC strike, I think?).

Must be better than the frequent rabbit in headlights look.
AN
Andrew Founding member
why are they simulcasting in the first place?
NE
News24
Actually the majority of the silences are just timing for the opt ins/outs on World. If you're watching News 24, then it's rolling, so all the silences do look slightly odd.

With regards to the man himself, a lot is asked of him as he is expected to work on his own one day, with someone else the next, he's probably been on air with virtually everyone who works there, and when you have to work with someone new, whose ways of working you don't know thoroughly, there are bound to be instances of tripping up. Also, he's sat on the left, traditionally the control position when there are 2 presenters.
JO
Jonathan
Newsroom posted:
Almost unbearable to watch in fact.

IMO - Wilcox should have more respect for the fact he has been joined by someone with so much experience. No doubt those inside the BBC will have noticed this mornings pantomime.

I mean what has Wilcox done that is so amazing about his career?'
edit: I love the way the weathergirl begins by saying ''hello, for most of us, today is looking rather pleasant''
HA
harshy Founding member
News24 posted:
Actually the majority of the silences are just timing for the opt ins/outs on World. If you're watching News 24, then it's rolling, so all the silences do look slightly odd.

With regards to the man himself, a lot is asked of him as he is expected to work on his own one day, with someone else the next, he's probably been on air with virtually everyone who works there, and when you have to work with someone new, whose ways of working you don't know thoroughly, there are bound to be instances of tripping up. Also, he's sat on the left, traditionally the control position when there are 2 presenters.


This is also the way it ends on BBC World, you get an awkward silence and then a promo into the next programme, whilst in the good old end days, you would have had a round-up of the headlines, then in the plasma, they started the end titles and music, finished off by the end titles, so much more stylish.
ST
Stuart
Just noticed that the tower on N24 changed from "BBC News" to the usual "BBC NEWS 24". Shocked

The Sunday shift are certainly having fun with the graphics! Laughing
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SO
Steven O
philglossop posted:
When did the story break?

At 9am on Sunday AM with Moira (who else?) on BBC1 at least


9.20am on my local radio station, Radio Borders - the presenter (Richard Pacey) announced it as breaking news and told listeners there would be more on the story at 10.
BR
Brekkie
So what coverage was there on terrestrial then?

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