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RTS Journalism Awards 2010

Discussion of the winners / loosers of 2010 (February 2010)

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NI
Nicky
A brief excerpt of Julie Etchingham's speech from the ITV News website.
WW
WW Update
I often turn to Sky News for coverage of some UK and world events, but the channel's day-to-day coverage of the rest of Europe tends to be very poor. It wasn't always like this; Sky News seemed to be far more committed to European affairs in the early 1990s.

I can't imagine why a serious news provider in a major European country -- whose reach spans the Continent -- feels that it's enough to have a single "European correspondent". The often cash-strapped public broadcaster in tiny Slovenia has full-time correspondents in Austria, Italy, Germany, Belgium, Russia, Croatia, Serbia, and the United Kingdom. Many Western European broadcasters have more.

In an era when Europe is more politically and socially integrated than ever before and more Europeans, including Britons, choose to live in or travel to other European countries -- or are dependent on the rest of Europe for their jobs -- Sky News's commitment to Europe (or the lack thereof) is disappointing. Does a channel that so often ignores its own backyard really deserve this award, no matter how good its breaking news coverage may be?
Last edited by WW Update on 25 February 2010 4:47pm
MO
Moz
Moz posted:
I just don't understand how the judges thought that the BBC News Channel was the best last year, and haven't even nominated it this year, giving the award instead to Sky, when neither channel has had any changes over the last year.

If both channels have stayed the same, why haven't the awards stayed the same!

Er, maybe because the news has been different over the last year?


Or maybe the coverage has been slightly different?

Yes, it's all down to the coverage, the stories in that year and what's submitted as an entry.

To say that both channels were exactly the same this year and last year is a nonsense, no news channel is the same from day to day!


I meant presentation -wise they've not changed. After all, this is a presentation forum. Rolling Eyes
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
I just don't understand how the judges thought that the BBC News Channel was the best last year, and haven't even nominated it this year, giving the award instead to Sky, when neither channel has had any changes over the last year.

If both channels have stayed the same, why haven't the awards stayed the same!

Er, maybe because the news has been different over the last year?


Or maybe the coverage has been slightly different?

Yes, it's all down to the coverage, the stories in that year and what's submitted as an entry.

To say that both channels were exactly the same this year and last year is a nonsense, no news channel is the same from day to day!


I meant presentation -wise they've not changed. After all, this is a presentation forum. Rolling Eyes


Yes, but the judging criteria obviously looks at much more than presentation. The channels may look the same but, as has already been pointed out, their handling of events has been very different.
TW
Tom W
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
I just don't understand how the judges thought that the BBC News Channel was the best last year, and haven't even nominated it this year, giving the award instead to Sky, when neither channel has had any changes over the last year.

If both channels have stayed the same, why haven't the awards stayed the same!

Er, maybe because the news has been different over the last year?


Or maybe the coverage has been slightly different?

Yes, it's all down to the coverage, the stories in that year and what's submitted as an entry.

To say that both channels were exactly the same this year and last year is a nonsense, no news channel is the same from day to day!


I meant presentation -wise they've not changed. After all, this is a presentation forum. Rolling Eyes


Sky did change pres-wise last February for its birthday when the set was revamped. Which on reflection is quite a big change from the fake newswall backdrop last year to the live backgrounds now.
IS
Inspector Sands
Moz posted:

I meant presentation -wise they've not changed. After all, this is a presentation forum. Rolling Eyes

But it's the Royal Television Society, not the Royal Television Presentation Society! Wink
IS
Inspector Sands
I often turn to Sky News for coverage of some UK and world events, but the channel's day-to-day coverage of the rest of Europe tends to be very poor. It wasn't always like this; Sky News seemed to be far more committed to European affairs in the early 1990s.

But then in the early 90's it was part of a satellite platform that was watched all over Europe and sat alongside channels from across Europe.

Now although it is seen all over the world, it's primarily a domestic service for the UK
WW
WW Update

But then in the early 90's it was part of a satellite platform that was watched all over Europe and sat alongside channels from across Europe.

Now although it is seen all over the world, it's primarily a domestic service for the UK


Fair enough, but many other domestic services across Europe -- particularly those as big as Sky News -- do a better job of covering European affairs and actually have a number of full-time correspondents in various European cities.

The UK is nowadays closely integrated with the rest of Europe and a key EU member (and therefore directly affected by what happens in other European countries and in Brussels), but I don't see this reflected in Sky News' everyday coverage.
Last edited by WW Update on 25 February 2010 6:58pm
BR
breakingnews

But then in the early 90's it was part of a satellite platform that was watched all over Europe and sat alongside channels from across Europe.

Now although it is seen all over the world, it's primarily a domestic service for the UK


Fair enough, but many other domestic services across Europe -- particularly those as big as Sky News -- do a better job of covering European affairs and actually have a number of full-time correspondents in various European cities.

The UK is nowadays closely integrated with the rest of Europe and a key EU member (and therefore directly affected by what happens in other European countries and in Brussels), but I don't see this reflected in Sky News' everyday coverage.


Sky is a commercial station - they have a small budget.

My problem is there recent concentration on celebrity stories.
Last edited by breakingnews on 25 February 2010 7:25pm
WO
Worzel

But then in the early 90's it was part of a satellite platform that was watched all over Europe and sat alongside channels from across Europe.

Now although it is seen all over the world, it's primarily a domestic service for the UK


Fair enough, but many other domestic services across Europe -- particularly those as big as Sky News -- do a better job of covering European affairs and actually have a number of full-time correspondents in various European cities.

The UK is nowadays closely integrated with the rest of Europe and a key EU member (and therefore directly affected by what happens in other European countries and in Brussels), but I don't see this reflected in Sky News' everyday coverage.


Sky is a commercial station - they have a small budget.

My problem is there recent concentration on celebrity stories.


The BBC News channel has also jumped on the same bandwagon in a lot of ways. I'm not saying either is right - but if it's a quiet news day they have to fill it with something...

I do have one question - out of the two (Sky News and the BBC News channel) which channel actually has the biggest budget to spend on its presentation and output?
Last edited by Worzel on 25 February 2010 7:49pm
IS
Inspector Sands

Sky is a commercial station - they have a small budget.

It doesn't have that small a budget, they are very well resourced.
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 25 February 2010 8:06pm
IS
Inspector Sands

Fair enough, but many other domestic services across Europe -- particularly those as big as Sky News -- do a better job of covering European affairs and actually have a number of full-time correspondents in various European cities.

The UK is nowadays closely integrated with the rest of Europe and a key EU member (and therefore directly affected by what happens in other European countries and in Brussels), but I don't see this reflected in Sky News' everyday coverage.

Yes but then that's only to be expected, News Corp isn't exactly pro-European is it? Sky will always skew towards an Anglo-American news agenda because that's where the parent company's outlook is

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