PE
I think it's funny she carries on, knowing there's a fault, but doesn't even acknowledge it with the viewers and apologise...
peterrocket
Founding member
Milktrolley posted:
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Interestingly, France was plunged into darkness the other day due to power failures with the French power company called RTE
Anyway, it was an unusual one to say the least...
Interestingly, France was plunged into darkness the other day due to power failures with the French power company called RTE
Anyway, it was an unusual one to say the least...
I think it's funny she carries on, knowing there's a fault, but doesn't even acknowledge it with the viewers and apologise...
PE
Here goes...
- Too many cuts on the opening piece - assuming they're people who have taken their own lives, so they could have been mixed between each one.
- The shots look dodgy unless you can get them full frame and not shoot at different angles for each one, I know that's not easy for you to do unless you get them flat and scanned, but it would look better.
- There would need to be a good lead into the package whcih would intro the person initially interviewed since the reporter isn't there to start with
- PTC - bit too much headroom
- Into the first (Dianne), I'd have used a standard cutaway before she started speaking so we didn't just see her sitting there before answering, something like her looking at pictures of her son.
- Interview cutaways, could do with a moving / panning shot but you could get away with them just being static but a tripod would have been good.
- The interview could have been filmed showing the reporter present, so you could get more noddy cutaways to cut her down a bit and cover the pauses so she's not looking just above the camera, but off to an angle.
- The website suddenly appears with no direct link to something like "we've set up a website etc" there's a vague reference... She actually mentions wristbands, so a close up shot of her with one on her arm? could be used as a nice edit in here
- After the graphic, you see her speaking but you don't hear her (goldfishing), instead you mix to her speaking. A shot in here of maybe a gravestone of someone who took their own life if possible, or memorial cards, tributes etc would have filled this and avoided the dodgy mix edit which never work when your using both the same shots.
- Last V/O - more goldfishing and mixing!
- On the stills, you could do panning up, going in and out of focus, something just not to make it as "flat"
Well you did ask for criticism
. On a journalistic point of view, it's good, maybe a bit on the long side, but visually a bit flat, if you know what I mean!
peterrocket
Founding member
channel2tv posted:
Going off topic for a minute.
Through posting in this thread, I know you guys are great at picking apart news reports, so if you can do me a favor. Can you take a look at this news report I made and tell me what is good and what is bad?
the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhz-s_rWUaY
Thanks!
Through posting in this thread, I know you guys are great at picking apart news reports, so if you can do me a favor. Can you take a look at this news report I made and tell me what is good and what is bad?
the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhz-s_rWUaY
Thanks!
Here goes...
- Too many cuts on the opening piece - assuming they're people who have taken their own lives, so they could have been mixed between each one.
- The shots look dodgy unless you can get them full frame and not shoot at different angles for each one, I know that's not easy for you to do unless you get them flat and scanned, but it would look better.
- There would need to be a good lead into the package whcih would intro the person initially interviewed since the reporter isn't there to start with
- PTC - bit too much headroom
- Into the first (Dianne), I'd have used a standard cutaway before she started speaking so we didn't just see her sitting there before answering, something like her looking at pictures of her son.
- Interview cutaways, could do with a moving / panning shot but you could get away with them just being static but a tripod would have been good.
- The interview could have been filmed showing the reporter present, so you could get more noddy cutaways to cut her down a bit and cover the pauses so she's not looking just above the camera, but off to an angle.
- The website suddenly appears with no direct link to something like "we've set up a website etc" there's a vague reference... She actually mentions wristbands, so a close up shot of her with one on her arm? could be used as a nice edit in here
- After the graphic, you see her speaking but you don't hear her (goldfishing), instead you mix to her speaking. A shot in here of maybe a gravestone of someone who took their own life if possible, or memorial cards, tributes etc would have filled this and avoided the dodgy mix edit which never work when your using both the same shots.
- Last V/O - more goldfishing and mixing!
- On the stills, you could do panning up, going in and out of focus, something just not to make it as "flat"
Well you did ask for criticism
. On a journalistic point of view, it's good, maybe a bit on the long side, but visually a bit flat, if you know what I mean!
PH
Here goes...
- Too many cuts on the opening piece - assuming they're people who have taken their own lives, so they could have been mixed between each one.
- The shots look dodgy unless you can get them full frame and not shoot at different angles for each one, I know that's not easy for you to do unless you get them flat and scanned, but it would look better.
- There would need to be a good lead into the package whcih would intro the person initially interviewed since the reporter isn't there to start with
- PTC - bit too much headroom
- Into the first (Dianne), I'd have used a standard cutaway before she started speaking so we didn't just see her sitting there before answering, something like her looking at pictures of her son.
- Interview cutaways, could do with a moving / panning shot but you could get away with them just being static but a tripod would have been good.
- The interview could have been filmed showing the reporter present, so you could get more noddy cutaways to cut her down a bit and cover the pauses so she's not looking just above the camera, but off to an angle.
- The website suddenly appears with no direct link to something like "we've set up a website etc" there's a vague reference... She actually mentions wristbands, so a close up shot of her with one on her arm? could be used as a nice edit in here
- After the graphic, you see her speaking but you don't hear her (goldfishing), instead you mix to her speaking. A shot in here of maybe a gravestone of someone who took their own life if possible, or memorial cards, tributes etc would have filled this and avoided the dodgy mix edit which never work when your using both the same shots.
- Last V/O - more goldfishing and mixing!
- On the stills, you could do panning up, going in and out of focus, something just not to make it as "flat"
Well you did ask for criticism. On a journalistic point of view, it's good, maybe a bit on the long side, but visually a bit flat, if you know what I mean!
Just a couple of questions.
At the beginning, the photos of those "people" are actually the same person (the son of the interviewee, the one who committed suicide). Would that make a difference as to how to compile the sequence?
Also, if we compare this with a standard RTE news report, is it better than it, at par, or worse? Please be honest, I love honesty. Thanks!
peterrocket posted:
channel2tv posted:
Going off topic for a minute.
Through posting in this thread, I know you guys are great at picking apart news reports, so if you can do me a favor. Can you take a look at this news report I made and tell me what is good and what is bad?
the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhz-s_rWUaY
Thanks!
Through posting in this thread, I know you guys are great at picking apart news reports, so if you can do me a favor. Can you take a look at this news report I made and tell me what is good and what is bad?
the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhz-s_rWUaY
Thanks!
Here goes...
- Too many cuts on the opening piece - assuming they're people who have taken their own lives, so they could have been mixed between each one.
- The shots look dodgy unless you can get them full frame and not shoot at different angles for each one, I know that's not easy for you to do unless you get them flat and scanned, but it would look better.
- There would need to be a good lead into the package whcih would intro the person initially interviewed since the reporter isn't there to start with
- PTC - bit too much headroom
- Into the first (Dianne), I'd have used a standard cutaway before she started speaking so we didn't just see her sitting there before answering, something like her looking at pictures of her son.
- Interview cutaways, could do with a moving / panning shot but you could get away with them just being static but a tripod would have been good.
- The interview could have been filmed showing the reporter present, so you could get more noddy cutaways to cut her down a bit and cover the pauses so she's not looking just above the camera, but off to an angle.
- The website suddenly appears with no direct link to something like "we've set up a website etc" there's a vague reference... She actually mentions wristbands, so a close up shot of her with one on her arm? could be used as a nice edit in here
- After the graphic, you see her speaking but you don't hear her (goldfishing), instead you mix to her speaking. A shot in here of maybe a gravestone of someone who took their own life if possible, or memorial cards, tributes etc would have filled this and avoided the dodgy mix edit which never work when your using both the same shots.
- Last V/O - more goldfishing and mixing!
- On the stills, you could do panning up, going in and out of focus, something just not to make it as "flat"
Well you did ask for criticism
. On a journalistic point of view, it's good, maybe a bit on the long side, but visually a bit flat, if you know what I mean!
Just a couple of questions.
At the beginning, the photos of those "people" are actually the same person (the son of the interviewee, the one who committed suicide). Would that make a difference as to how to compile the sequence?
Also, if we compare this with a standard RTE news report, is it better than it, at par, or worse? Please be honest, I love honesty. Thanks!
PE
peterrocket
Founding member
It doesn't matter if they're the same person or not, trying to get the pictures full frame would been better or shooting them head on, and even then mixing through them with some possible sombre piano-esque music would lift the whole thing at the start. That decision would probably lie to the fact if it's a feature story or just another daily bit of news and whether it gets more.
Compared to RTE, there's a few other wee techie things, you could fade out between sound edits, I know RTE don't always do this but I always tried to (the joys of Avid) so it looked seamless...
Compared to RTE, there's a few other wee techie things, you could fade out between sound edits, I know RTE don't always do this but I always tried to (the joys of Avid) so it looked seamless...
MI
What exactly was the point of this evening's Six One?
Here's the rundown of the bulletin:
0:53 Tony Blair interview on al-Jazeera English; extra €100m for Iraq's economy.
2:41 UN resolution deploring Israeli attack approved (LVO)
3:10 Society urges Govt action against Alzheimers
5:03 Gardaí probe Ballymun shooting incident (LVO)
5:22 Cocaine seized in Co. Wicklow house search (PTC)
5:33 Man before court over fireams offences (LVO)
5:52 Two Irish winners in Euromillions
7:50 Four awards for RTÉ at Justice Media Awards (LVO)
8:20 Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes in Rome for wedding
10:00 Michael Flatley leaves London Hospital (LVO)
10:27 Loyalist and Nationalist communities play first football match since 1948
12:12 Commercial break
16:16 Sports News
26:21 Weather Forecast
An LVO for the second story? That had been in the news since very early this morning - plenty of time to piece together a report using material from whichever agency instead of a 29 second LVO.
And no mention of the man who died after falling from a Rosslare-Pembroke ferry, the firefighters who were shot at in Co. Derry, or yesterday's riots in Greece. Yet, there were four and a half minutes of entertainment (Euromillions, RTÉ awards, TomKat and Flatley) in the 12 minutes of news. And an out-of-focus camera in the studio at one point.
Even if they were low on staff, could they not have channeled the energy that went into the report on Tom Cruise into a report on any of the newsworthy LVO's? Ballymun's not a million miles away from Donnybrook, and they wouldn't even have to leave Montrose for a piece on the UN resolution.
A very bad bulletin. Hopefully the Nine will be better.
Here's the rundown of the bulletin:
0:53 Tony Blair interview on al-Jazeera English; extra €100m for Iraq's economy.
2:41 UN resolution deploring Israeli attack approved (LVO)
3:10 Society urges Govt action against Alzheimers
5:03 Gardaí probe Ballymun shooting incident (LVO)
5:22 Cocaine seized in Co. Wicklow house search (PTC)
5:33 Man before court over fireams offences (LVO)
5:52 Two Irish winners in Euromillions
7:50 Four awards for RTÉ at Justice Media Awards (LVO)
8:20 Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes in Rome for wedding
10:00 Michael Flatley leaves London Hospital (LVO)
10:27 Loyalist and Nationalist communities play first football match since 1948
12:12 Commercial break
16:16 Sports News
26:21 Weather Forecast
An LVO for the second story? That had been in the news since very early this morning - plenty of time to piece together a report using material from whichever agency instead of a 29 second LVO.
And no mention of the man who died after falling from a Rosslare-Pembroke ferry, the firefighters who were shot at in Co. Derry, or yesterday's riots in Greece. Yet, there were four and a half minutes of entertainment (Euromillions, RTÉ awards, TomKat and Flatley) in the 12 minutes of news. And an out-of-focus camera in the studio at one point.
Even if they were low on staff, could they not have channeled the energy that went into the report on Tom Cruise into a report on any of the newsworthy LVO's? Ballymun's not a million miles away from Donnybrook, and they wouldn't even have to leave Montrose for a piece on the UN resolution.
A very bad bulletin. Hopefully the Nine will be better.
NE
Good evening and welcome - I've found a old precious cock-up which was not shown here before -
Watch here (0:20)
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DI
that's the worst case of 'teamwork' i've ever seen... the rest of them are taking the earpieces out before the show ends (unforgiving in any station) but the fact he just walked out!! They're all amazed, and he looks as if he knows exactly what he's doing. Considering he's there almost as long as RTE itself, i'd be hard-pushed to believe he made a mistake. just shows the shabbyness of it all