The Newsroom

RTÉ News

(March 2005)

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Telefis
Yes the titles are an embarrassment – well executed for what they are (whatever that is), but utterly pointless and wholly unsuited to news. It looks like the intro to a mid-90s Healthcheck programme or somesuch. Truly terrible.

The set most certainly does get darker for bulletins. However I still think it’s a simple cyclorama; just the rear lighting is altered for various bulletins, in particular intense lighting projected into certain spots to emit that potent orange colour. Comparing the wides of Nine and News on Two, the ‘airbrush’ pattern is still in all the same places, just lit at a different level. The fact that state-of-the-art ‘LED lighting’ was promoted, as ‘changing the mood of bulletins’, very much suggests complex lighting to the rear of a bog-standard cyclorama. And whilst not overly noticeable here, on television this raking shot tends to show up what looks like a canvas sheen just to the left of the CSO screen, from the glare of the overhead lighting:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_210735.jpg

Look a bit cheap unfortunately – the colours lose their potency in that area.


But agreed that News on Two looks great – almost purple in places. Lovely and sultry. The intro shot with Anthony and his laptop does look good – if nothing else he’s the only presenter who looks credible with a laptop! But the picture composition with the CSO to the right looks great as well – the screen doesn’t look nearly as cheap as on Nine or One.

Which is more than can be said for the stand-up monitor unit – sorry but it is absolutely ghastly! I’m surprised nobody has picked up on this except Phen mentioning its vast expanse of silver – it’s hideous! So unbelievably cheap and crude looking, it’s like an 8x4 of MDF spray-painted with a can of silver car paint.

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/pvr000_copy1.jpg

Horribly cheap and nasty, and the hard lines round the monitor, lack of framing, and almost flush positioning of the monitor crude and unfinished in appearance. My jaw hit the floor when I saw it – extraordinarily cheap and nasty when one considers the rest of the set. And the contrast with the sleek panel of walnut veneer to the left only serves highlight its shoddiness all the more!
What’s with the pockmark up to the top left too?! The monitor is also too small, too dark, distractingly off-angle, and the lighting of this area too dark. Only I imagine the lighting’s kept muted in an effort to reduce the hideousness and glare of that unit. What a shoddy piece of design – it doesn’t fit in with the rest of the scheme at all.

Obviously you can’t do anything with it now RTÉ, but do sneakily replace it in a year’s time for crying out loud. Talk about an afterthought…


Otherwise the lighting on News on Two is lovely, as is the dimming at the end – excellent stuff! Who said lights down was dead! Very Happy

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_232221.jpg

Only the blue is a bit too intense – the newscaster needs to be sinisterly silhouetted in such circumstances Smile

Only why isn’t this used on Nine?! – it simply MUST be used on that bulletin too. No question. Easy to do, and it would look wonderful. An absolute MUST – especially for when Doyle returns. A distinguished convention for a distinguished newscaster.

One last thing, the final zoom out from Eileen at the end, even before she finishes speaking, is crass and overly obvious – ditch it.
By contrast, the lead-in zoom after breaks works very well indeed. We also badly need movement for the wide shot – have they dumped the robot camera? Sad

All in all I think the set looks good for what it is, but is distinctly underwhelming for a national broadcaster, and is very very boring in terms of visual interest. It’d tired already in that respect. It’s the 2000-2003 scheme, minus the interest of the illuminated columns, which bizarrely would work perfectly in the corners of the new set!

The Astons are neat, but lifeless and boring. And the sitting on top of the DOG gets more and more clumsy the more you see it.
The brown set is an odd choice for television alright, and is clearly cashing in on the current brown fad in domestic interiors. It does look nice and elegant though, if the overwhelming nature of it surrounding the studio uninspiring and boring.
SE
seamus
I really think Eileen is well suitedmfor the Nine. I don't wanther to leave. What does she do the rest of the time?
GA
Gallunach
DAS posted:
Gallunach posted:
DAS posted:
Why bother uploading pictures if you have to continually ask for permission?


One of the rules of wikipedia is that you have to have the permission of the photographer or in this case the creator of a picture to use it .

You can't just nick even screencaps off a private website and use them without permission and showing you have permission


I know, thanks. The point I'm making is that Wikipedia is designed for people to share their knowledge. There's no point starting a topic for the sake of it if you have nothing to put in that topic. Nor is there any point in adding pictures when, er, you don't have the pictures.

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If you knew that already why ask the question

If someone wants to organise the topic on wikipedia it seems to me there is plenty of information in this thread and even screencaps if you can get permission to use them
DI
diarmydotnet
Does anyone else think the music at the intro sounds like something off Winning Streak??

I wonder did RTE actually commission an LED screen and after they found too much Union resistance to standing up, or couldn't figure out how to turn it on, they ditched the idea and got a big roll of acetate and sent it down to the kids at the Den and gave them some paint?? The backdrop does not even seem to have a pattern to it. In hindsight, a simple chocolate brown painted sheet of MDF insetted from the two white 'glass' panels top and bottom, which would be illuminated by colour-changing neon bars (obviously recessed to not be seen) and the occassional 23" LCD TV set into the background would have worked much better.

I still think that this is the same stuff from RTE. They haven't changed the format (other than the guilt-ridden reports from far flung places) and it's still the same constant iteration of articles. It seems to be kinda more rushed too than the previous, although I do like Dunne's warm 'good evening and welcome' greeting. I just think it's hugely lacking in OOOOOMMMFFFPPHHH. But in that sense you can see why they went for a music sequence that starts alright but fades into nothingness... because the reality is that RTE only has about 3 hours of programming a day from that set, and couldn't be bothered making the set into a proper 'News Broadcast Centre' (still referred to a studio in the pre-sequence... even if it is just a studio a much better way to put it up to the top of the list of watchable would be to say "And now we cross over to RTE's News Centre for all the latest in News and Current Affairs")... a bit of pomp and ceremony. Given the yanks are over for the Ryder cup you'd imagine theyd make the effort they made for the 1999 set!

Anyone any thoughts on this?
JA
jamesmd
Considering that this:

http://thetvroom.com/images-rte-one/rte-one-news/90-9-main-d.jpg

is what RTE News looked like in the 1990s, I think they've done pretty well.

Image courtesy of thetvroom.com
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seamus
Well the majority of the ninties looked like this:
http://thetvroom.com/images-rte-one/rte-one-news/1-long-94.jpghttp://thetvroom.com/images-rte-one/rte-one-news/1-anned-94.jpg

The worst BBC ripoff I have ever seen.
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lolo
I don't like the RTÉ new look at all. The should move the news dept to a downtown location, and use a city back drop. That studio could be a bedsit in Rathmines as far as anyone could tell.


What do people here think of TF1 and France 2?

http://jt.france2.fr/ (all 3 are slightly different).

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/videos/ ( I really like the intro music, click on the 3 anchors).
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seamus
RTE has nothing to do with french tv.

ANd the TF1 and the other sets are gastly.
DI
diarmydotnet
I think that's a bit much Séamus. The TF1 channel news seems to be well presented with a good solid studio anchor, friendly french face and excellent intro graphics worthy of the title 'News'.

If RTÉ had even a shred of this theme it might not be so bad.
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seamus
I'd say that the TF1 titles rejigged to match thr RTE et would be nice. I just thought the set was overwhelming and too futuristic.
DA
DAS Founding member
Seamus, shut the - up will you, we don't need a reply to every single post that someone makes.

lolo posted:

http://tf1.lci.fr/infos/videos/ ( I really like the intro music, click on the 3 anchors).


The end sequence of the 13H bulletin is hilarious - it would have been better if the camera followed him out into the car park, all the way home and while he ate his tea.
DI
diarmydotnet
DAS, I never watched the end of it till now... that's hilarious!!! But look at the magnificent layout of the newroom... really is well created with loads of differring height desks, loads of screens (i'd swear there were two Apple 30" displays at the side) and great scope in the place... really looks professional

except for the comical exit scene...! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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