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(March 2005)

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seamus
I'm not a trekkie but the guy eho mage this says that the set looks like some barrier in a galaxy and made this:
http://static.flickr.com/68/227416230_d08fdce757.jpg


I don't get it. He says it's the Great Galactic Barierr? WHat is that?
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Colm
That set doesn't do much to flatter Sharon really.

The brown two-tone globe in that graphic looks horrible as well - did they borrow it from the UK lottery "Jet Set" programme?
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Aidy
The set just seems to remind be of the outgoing Grampian news set., and they have just got ride of theirs for a new set!

http://tvtitles.thetvroomplus.com/images-news/itv-grp/2006/main-01.jpg

Anyway I think they have taken their inspiration from the old Grampian News set, the BBC Nationals set and the BBC World 2nd set.
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Phen
séamus - where did you get that Very Happy ? I suppose it does look like something out of Star Trek but at least we're not talking ITV News here! In hindsight I imagine we'll have to wait until all returns to normal before we'll see the new package's 'true colours'. I'm surprised at how concise the bulletins are - no wides at all and they don't seem to be trying to show off the new set or anything - perhaps they're just testing the waters today.
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Telefis
Thanks for those Phen – indeed you’d wonder if the laptops are used soley to help cover up the slanting white line! Very Happy Why didn’t they just lower it to out of shot? Where possible they should zoom to MCU when there’s no insert, as per One today:

http://tvtitles.thetvroomplus.com/images-news/rte/2006-2/one-11.jpg

Preferably with an ounce of headroom Rolling Eyes

The map graphics look so much better in 16:9 than 14:9 letterbox!


Ah now James, RTÉ isn’t that bad at all. TV3 barely even HAS a set – little more than a couple of veneered flats up against a warehouse wall. It’s absolutely dire!

But on that very point, at least we can be thankful (well, not all of us Wink) that RTÉ didn’t do for a ‘cutting edge’ ‘cool’ show-all-the-shyte style, bringing cameras and lighting into shot as per TV3 and certain other broadcasters. It wouldn’t have surprised me in the least if they had – so hopefully this move has confirmed that they intend to stick in ‘Establishment mode’.

I think the two-shot on Six One is fine (two pics further down), off-centring aside. In spite of it being very similar to the sleep-inducing 2000-2003 two-shot in terms of plain cyclorama background…

http://thetvroom.com/images-rte-one/rte-one-news/images-01/weekend-six-d.jpg

…it’s still a great improvement on the above, with the interest of the curved desk and white skirting. Those giant supporting pins look ridiculous though!

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_182716.jpg

http://tvtitles.thetvroomplus.com/images-news/rte/2006-2/one-23.jpg


And the skirting incredibly garish in raking shots as mentioned:

http://tvtitles.thetvroomplus.com/images-news/rte/2006-2/one-14.jpg

If toned down, would the plastic become too evident?
Saying all that, the set does generally look rather classy on a wide in above pics Very Happy

Overall there seems to be neither LED screens or clever glass in use – just a plain old illuminated cyclorama, which does the job very nicely still. A great pity the colour doesn’t change for various bulletins however – at least it seems there’s going to be a lighting change for Nine, as they advertised the LEDs lighting as changing at least something!
There must be a screen over to the left, for use in News2Day if nothing else – maybe this will become activated once they start off ‘proper’ next week, and the CSO screen was only temporary?

And I’ve only just noticed that the white parts are pronounced from the cyclorama by about six inches, with wood ledges. Does this mean the cyclorama itself can be changed for a different colour/pattern for use in The Week in Politics? (TWIP). Surely the most likely, as it seems the brown colouring is imbued in the cyc itself rather than generated by an external element.


Fully agreed about the overly generous picture window distance from newsreader Phen, especially given the lack of picture visible in 14:9 too – i.e. for the majority of viewers. It doesn’t make visual sense to have so much space between them, and then such a narrow strip of picture.

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/pvr001.jpg

I also don’t like the lines running across the image – they were borderline okay on the One, but looked terrible this evening when imposed over an image of President McAleese. The insert department has always produced RTE News’s finest work; they have a fantastic team in there which is why I’m so glad windows have been retained, but disappointed about the lines. Let us see your work in all its glory!

All in all, there’s a blatent influence of BBC News via the square set with skirting, grey floor, and the astons, and of RTÉ News 2000-2003 via the very neutral cyclorama backdrop and the airbrushed picture inserts which I think they’re acknowledging, like everyone else, to be RTE News’s finest hour.

I suspect we’re not going to get to see half of this studio till this day next week, which is a very odd way of doing things. Very odd indeed in fact, relaunching on a skeleton service, and minus the impact of a reinvigorated RTÉ One to boot…


And just on widescreen, have we yet seen anything as astoundingly unprofessional aspect ratio-wise as Coleman’s cropped report?! It was nothing short of obscene. Even if it was commissioned a few weeks ago and they didn’t know when it was to be broadcast, do they still not have the resources to at least pan and scan?!

Already we’re seeing the disadvantages of News widescreen in terms of imported content too. At least the BBC and ITV shoot a lot of their foreign material themselves, but RTÉ import the vast bulk of it with stories from outside Europe, where the television world is still very much 4:3. At least three of the reports we saw this today were cropped 4:3, with hideous resolution and mauled picture composition. Admittedly there’s little you can do about this, but it’s a great shame Sad. Weekend bulletins with all their acquired material are going to be dismal at times with all their acquired material.

Interesting Coleman said “for RTÉ News”, as she doesn’t work for them anymore Wink
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rdd Founding member
Have just watched part of the RealPlayer stream of the Six-One, will reserve full judgement until I see and hear it on a TV at the Nine, but anyways:

As Colm said - what is with the "RTE NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS" in the titles? Granted its de riguer now to include an RTÉ logo and genre in the titles, but given that there's already an "RTÉ NEWS" at the end of the tiles, doesn't this make the genre credit obselete? Not even the BBC puts a BBC logo fade up in their titles!

We should, incidently, award a prize to the first person who can figure just what the hell the titles are all about!

The studio...it could work a lot better if it were just a different colour. Brown is hideous. And the laptops must go.

The music sounds very nondescript, but I'll reserve judgement until I hear it on a proper TV.

The rest of the graphics are fine.
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jamesmd
I don't see why they've got graphic insults if they've got the backdrop which can be changed. Although RTE aren't famous for quick thinking any more are they.
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seamus
Phen posted:
séamus - where did you get that Very Happy ? I suppose it does look like something out of Star Trek but at least we're not talking ITV News here! In hindsight I imagine we'll have to wait until all returns to normal before we'll see the new package's 'true colours'. I'm surprised at how concise the bulletins are - no wides at all and they don't seem to be trying to show off the new set or anything - perhaps they're just testing the waters today.


I belong to some Irish gaelic forum and the mod started a thread and said the set looks like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/31/STInBeauty.jpg

See the resemblance? The mod made the photoshop
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marksi
James Hall posted:
I don't see why they've got graphic insults if they've got the backdrop which can be changed. Although RTE aren't famous for quick thinking any more are they.


Presumably you mean "graphic insert" unless they're being very rude. Wink
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Gareth E
No really, all joking aside . . . what are those titles about?

I've watched the 6.1 webstream again, and again, and again, and I can make head nor tail of it.

And it really is beyond belief in today's multi-channel society that th NINE O'CLOCK NEWS can be the Four-Minutes-Past-Nine O'Clock News, as it is tonight. Not even ITV are that bad with their 'Main Evening News'.

Rolling Eyes
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Phen
OK well the titles are slightly different for the Nine but I'm still no closer to finding out exactly what they're supposed to be! The lighting does seem to be a bit different - what do you think? I have to say - Eileen looks fantastic here Very Happy :

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_210413.jpg

And we have a wide of the studio as well at last Very Happy ! It looks a lot better here wouldn't you say?

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_210448.jpg

And the live link-up looks much better here than before:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_210735.jpg

And finally an example of some composed graphics:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_210511.jpg

EDIT: The TV Room has some great caps of the relaunch so far too - excellent quality!

And here's the closing shot:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ch045_0828_213045.jpg

There's an awful lot of white background noise coming form the laptop - you can even hear the hard drive 'clicking' away quite clearly!
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jamesmd
marksi posted:
James Hall posted:
I don't see why they've got graphic insults if they've got the backdrop which can be changed. Although RTE aren't famous for quick thinking any more are they.


Presumably you mean "graphic insert" unless they're being very rude. Wink


No, I meant insult, as it's hideous.

Oh dear, that's a very small set isn't it. Makes me wonder why the hell they can't get the desk right.

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