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(March 2005)

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Gallunach
channel2tv posted:

2. I don't believe in ageism or sexism. For the love of god, do not make me out as a misogynist,, elder-hating eejit. While I don't believe women presenters should be forced out when they are aging, that is what society generally acts to. They respond to younger female presenter more than older ones. You don't see Connie Chung very often these days, do you?

3. People should have some form of modesty. If you are aging, do you want to be seen as aging, and having people starting to call you gramps? NO!
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Can you tell me how #3 doesn't contradict #2

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If you are aging, do you want to be seen as aging, and having people starting to call you gramps? NO!
Maybe you don't want that to happen to you but that doesn't make it true for everyone
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phoenixrises
My position on this matter stands as is. Una is just too old for 6.1, when compared to Sharon. She should move on to other opportunities, such as crime-related investigative reporting, or other journalistic opportunities that fits her point in life right now.

I am not misogynistic, I just think that with age, jobs should be different. Just like how there are more young people being lifeguards.
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seamus
Any news on the revamp yet? Will they finally broadcast in 16:9?
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Phen
seamus21514 posted:
Any news on the revamp yet? Will they finally broadcast in 16:9?


As far as I know, there hasn't been any confirmation that it will be broadcast in 16:9 but all other RTÉ output is now in 16:9 so its highly unlikely that the news will stay in 4:3 after September.

Hopefully Red Bee will be designing the new look as well as the new RTÉ One look (its easy to forget that the whole channel is getting a facelift when you're more worried about the news!) I was thinking about what they might do with the set and IMO a hybrid of the BBC World set with a curved newswall behind it like Sky News would be a nice idea but with a much larger desk. Then they could get rid of the whole plasma screen idea which IMO is extremely dated at this stage - they've had one in Studio 3 since the start of 2000! Either way they'll have to introduce some movement in the background of the new set (but obviously not as much as TV3 News which would give you vertigo). It'd also be nice if there was a wider shot of the studio after the titles à la BBC World or better still a rail-cam like BBC News 24 would work nicely in Studio 3 if that small studio can handle it.

I wonder exactly how much upgrading of equipment they'll have to do in Studio 3? I presume the cameras are 16:9 ready (by the way - how many cameras are in use in Studio 3 today?) but I imagine the whole presentation suite (not sure of the technical name for it) will have to be upgraded significantly with 16:9 monitors etc. And I often wonder about the floor in the studio - is that cream covering easily removed or is it a more permanent fixture? Some animating astons would be nice as well but they'd have to be subtle unlike ITV News' or TV3 News' astons which are far too distracting.

I was looking back at the various RTÉ News looks and it really is staggering how much of a step backward they took with the introduction of the current set. They better make up for it!
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seamus
I personally hate the current news look, so any change would be great. I usually watch TG4, so don't know much about RTE's look, but I like the theme of old/new. I know that sounds weird, but I live in america, so aren't in tune with tv there. With the news background, is that wallpaper, perspex, or Projection?
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Phen
seamus21514 posted:
Projection?


HA! You wish! Its cheap plastic painted blue and orange with a light shining through it from behind it Rolling Eyes .
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seamus
LOL, that's RTE for you.
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Telefis
There isn’t room to swing a cat in Studio 3 Seamus Smile

I think we all know where we stand re Una and Sharon, so let’s just move on, other than to say that your opinions re Una channel2tv are clearly ageist in nature. How anybody can be ‘too old’ to present news is beyond me – in fact it is for this very reason that Anne Doyle has survived for as long as she has. Now at 54 years of age, she’s a good few years older than Una and yet is arguably the most famous (for all her faults) and most popular newscaster in Ireland. To say a bulletin or station needs a younger image is one thing, but observing that a person is too old to present news is an entirely different matter.


Interestingly however, this issue does tie into the revamp plans to a certain degree, and the future presentation of RTÉ News. To be quite honest I cannot see Anne Doyle adapting well to any major ‘structural’ changes in how news is presented. For example I can see her refusing to stand during bulletins (a good thing IMO Smile), being awkward in a more interactive environment, her steely persona clashing with the more conversational style that such changes tend to necessitate, and the myriad new cues for her to feck up. Coupled Nine’s alternating presentation with Eileen Dunne, it is something of a more ‘mature’ bulletin shall we say , making it very difficult to enforce major changes here. A good thing in my opinion – if there’s one serious, reflective, traditional-style bulletin, it ought to be Nine.

Overall though personally I cannot see RTÉ going with an ITV newswall like situation – not the whole studio that is, but the rolling-pictures scenario behind newscasters. I can see them sticking with picture windows/inserts and generally a more conservative pres package, with more cutting edge modernity (cough) being restricted to the set design. Although, with 16:9, anything is possible. The fact that no major British broadcaster uses inserts in 16:9 will doubtless influence RTÉ, unfortunately.

The one prospect that really excites me is the notion of a sultry look for the Nine bulletin – this revamp must be taken advantage of in this respect. The current look is so horribly harsh in the evenings especially – it’d be wonderful to have a moody dark look, even potentially using a lights-up/down scenario, though again I doubt RTÉ will avail of this. They cannot handle even the most basic operations at the minute, so I fail to see how they’d want to complicate matters further Sad

A railcam would be wonderful alright – greater camera movement must be made in wides. Even at present the studio’s robot camera is only used for the opening of Six One and just the odd time for Nine, in spite of costing a fortune to operate and maintain – not even the BBC has a single robot camera in use in Television Centre they’re so costly to use! At present there are four cameras in Studio 3 – a typical amount in any conventional news setup. 3 are remotes, i.e. can only be operated via pan tilt and zoom, while the fourth is a remote and robot which can move across the floor via a mechanised base with wheels. I’ve been told that the BBC don’t use them anymore because they cost so much to maintain, but also as their insurers will not insure studio operations with them unless there’s a floor manager present at all times! This could well explain why it is rarely used on Nine, where there is no FM, but they still do sneakily use it!

I suspect at a guess that all of this remote equipment was installed for the 1997 revamp. As for the gallery, it’s possible it’s 16:9 ready, but the monitors and certain other equipment will have to be renewed. In any event the whole gallery may need updating and they might take this opportunity to do this – it is afterall still seemingly on an antiquated VT-based system, though other elements are of course digital for quite a while.

Agreed that other looks were so much better than the muck we have now - the often forgotton about 1997 look is probably my favourite, though there are parts of 200 that are great too. 1997 just looked so sultry and professional. Also associate it with Anne Doyle being in her prime - she's gone down so much since Sad
She never even uses her repertoire of bizarre closing lines anymore, like this at 26.03:

http://www.rte.ie/news/1999/0616/9news/9news.smil

And look at how professional the set looks! - that walnut wall with uplighters is a design classic!
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seamus
I'll be back home on the 1st of July. Are there tours? Probaly not much to look at though...lol.
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Telefis
No and correct respectively Smile
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seamus
Thought so. Have you been there before? Also, Is the building nondiscreet, or bold like TVC?
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Telefis
It's a very attractive campus Seamus, though not to everyone's taste perhaps. The 1961 Television Building can be seen in the middle below:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/RTE1TV/TelevisionCentre.jpg

It matches its counterpart: the four storey Administration Building in the distance, while the building to the right, Stage 7, was completed about six years ago to house nearly all of RTÉ Television's various in-house production offices.

The first 12 or so windows of the TV Building in the above picture are the Newsroom, extending in a long and narrow fashion the entire length of the building which reaches nearly as far down as the Admin Building. The Newsroom cannot extend further right to make it wider because that's the huge bulk of Studio 4 you see rising out of the office roof there. More studios stand adjacent to this in a line running the whole way through the centre of the building.

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