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The parade this year was shockingly directed, the worst in a good many years. They chose an appalling location to centre their operations, and concentrated them so tightly in one area that the scene got jaded incredibly quickly. It was just so utterly boring to watch, with the same shots in the same location used over and over again. The operations were so tied to the one location that we barely even got decent steadicam shots walking any distance. And that ghastly metal bridge that was thrown up over O'Connell Street kept coming into shot every time the steadicam ops attempted to give us something half decent on the ground.
Coupled with the sleep-inducing commentary of that TG4 guy, and the constant satellite dropout from the notoriously dodgy service providers RTÉ so favour, it made for a thoroughly dismal production. It was so boringly shot that I just turned it off after twenty minutes - in that time alone the link broke down at least six times. The graphics were equally laughable. And to think this is now being shown in nine countries around the world. How embarrassing.
Coupled with the sleep-inducing commentary of that TG4 guy, and the constant satellite dropout from the notoriously dodgy service providers RTÉ so favour, it made for a thoroughly dismal production. It was so boringly shot that I just turned it off after twenty minutes - in that time alone the link broke down at least six times. The graphics were equally laughable. And to think this is now being shown in nine countries around the world. How embarrassing.
PE
peterrocket
Founding member
The graphics were quite good - however the direction was atrocious. The handheld shots were all the same angled stuff, at many times you saw the steadicam in shot clearly getting a better shot but we never saw the output from that cameras.
The best bit was the fact that whilst we had the big overhead gantry with a camera, someone had the bright idea of putting the jib right infront of it, so any gantry shots had the jib swinging infront of the gantry so looking awful in the gantry shots but also effectively bringing in the same shots as the gantry camera.
It should have been further down the road, and operated by someone who had a steady hand!
The best bit was the fact that whilst we had the big overhead gantry with a camera, someone had the bright idea of putting the jib right infront of it, so any gantry shots had the jib swinging infront of the gantry so looking awful in the gantry shots but also effectively bringing in the same shots as the gantry camera.
It should have been further down the road, and operated by someone who had a steady hand!
RT
The best bit was the fact that whilst we had the big overhead gantry with a camera, someone had the bright idea of putting the jib right infront of it, so any gantry shots had the jib swinging infront of the gantry so looking awful in the gantry shots but also effectively bringing in the same shots as the gantry camera.
Precisely. I just couldn't believe that they located the jibarm right next to the gantry! I saw the gantry being built the other day on location, and wondered why they were doing away with the jibarm and using static overhead camers instead. Silly me, forgetting this was RTÉ, I thought wow, they're really spreading their operations down the street, putting the jib arm at one end and the gantry at the other. I should have course have realised that in fact they'd simply dump the jib arm right next to it, dupilicating all the overhead shots of the gantry, allow it to constantly get in shot, and limit any scenic variation over the course of the near-two hour coverage. It was a joke.
The 'creative' tilting shots work to a point, especially when used with clever dissolves, but they used so many of them that coupled with the limiting wide shots, it made for a claustrophobic and dizzing viewing experience. Also no scene-setting wide shots were used, or creative introductions after the ad breaks, or 'breathing spaces' of novelty cut awaysto famous landmarks etc etc - just same old, same old humdrum coverege. It was 1916 all over again.
peterrocket posted:
The best bit was the fact that whilst we had the big overhead gantry with a camera, someone had the bright idea of putting the jib right infront of it, so any gantry shots had the jib swinging infront of the gantry so looking awful in the gantry shots but also effectively bringing in the same shots as the gantry camera.
Precisely. I just couldn't believe that they located the jibarm right next to the gantry! I saw the gantry being built the other day on location, and wondered why they were doing away with the jibarm and using static overhead camers instead. Silly me, forgetting this was RTÉ, I thought wow, they're really spreading their operations down the street, putting the jib arm at one end and the gantry at the other. I should have course have realised that in fact they'd simply dump the jib arm right next to it, dupilicating all the overhead shots of the gantry, allow it to constantly get in shot, and limit any scenic variation over the course of the near-two hour coverage. It was a joke.
The 'creative' tilting shots work to a point, especially when used with clever dissolves, but they used so many of them that coupled with the limiting wide shots, it made for a claustrophobic and dizzing viewing experience. Also no scene-setting wide shots were used, or creative introductions after the ad breaks, or 'breathing spaces' of novelty cut awaysto famous landmarks etc etc - just same old, same old humdrum coverege. It was 1916 all over again.
MI
I didn't see much of it, but I saw enough (i.e. about 90 seconds) to know that the satellite feed was a major problem. I must have a look at the link to it!
During the Six Nations, I'm reliably informed that during the most crucial moment of France v Scotland, somebody cut up the Aertel generator used for Nightscreen! And the Six-One on at the moment is riddled with late cues - to the extent where Eamonn Horan joked "[The report] is coming, trust me."
I disgree with sstepski (sorry
), I think the streaming is quite good but there's going to have to be a big effort made to ensure that the world doesn't get subjected to running order blunders, dodgy cues et al.
During the Six Nations, I'm reliably informed that during the most crucial moment of France v Scotland, somebody cut up the Aertel generator used for Nightscreen! And the Six-One on at the moment is riddled with late cues - to the extent where Eamonn Horan joked "[The report] is coming, trust me."
I disgree with sstepski (sorry
), I think the streaming is quite good but there's going to have to be a big effort made to ensure that the world doesn't get subjected to running order blunders, dodgy cues et al.
MI
The One O'Clock isn't usually stored at the weekends. I'd imagine they'll continue to store them as usual
NE
Probably because it wanders around various timeslots.I've seen it on air as early as 12.20pm and as late as 1.35pm
They aren't equipped enough to handle it or something?!
BTW: It is in my area of interest - how the hell RTE.ie's content management system looks like... ?
Gallunach posted:
Milktrolley posted:
The One O'Clock isn't usually stored at the weekends. I'd imagine they'll continue to store them as usual
Probably because it wanders around various timeslots.I've seen it on air as early as 12.20pm and as late as 1.35pm
They aren't equipped enough to handle it or something?!
BTW: It is in my area of interest - how the hell RTE.ie's content management system looks like... ?
GA
Probably because it wanders around various timeslots.I've seen it on air as early as 12.20pm and as late as 1.35pm
They aren't equipped enough to handle it or something?!
Well it can't be done automatically by use of a timer can it if it moves around and it's usually about 5 minutes long so presumably they felt it wasn't worth the effort of tracking it each week
I haven't the foggiest what you mean by this sentence
sstepski posted:
Gallunach posted:
Milktrolley posted:
The One O'Clock isn't usually stored at the weekends. I'd imagine they'll continue to store them as usual
Probably because it wanders around various timeslots.I've seen it on air as early as 12.20pm and as late as 1.35pm
They aren't equipped enough to handle it or something?!
Well it can't be done automatically by use of a timer can it if it moves around and it's usually about 5 minutes long so presumably they felt it wasn't worth the effort of tracking it each week
Quote:
- how the hell RTE.ie's content management system looks... ?
I haven't the foggiest what you mean by this sentence
NE
I haven't the foggiest what you mean by this sentence
This can be unclear for you if you are not a webmaster. I mean how their system of adding, moving and editing pages machine looks - for sure they don't edit their pages using FrontPage or Notepad though. I ask the question, because the output side of their efforts look kinda strange, lots of separate HTML files. BTW If you will be switching back, and back throughout the days available in the calendar you will notice, that the left menu does not look the same in all of the pages. Some pages have separate menus for TV and radio programmes, some pages have merged TV & radio into one programme menu. That's the main purpose why I've asked this question here - what kind of content management system they use if their pages are not enough integrated to have the one and only menu displayed on all of the pages? If you have more questions, you can send me a PM.
Trathnona maith agat.
PS Some time ago I've watched the new Nuacht weatherline (an idea of the new eagarthoir I think) and I've noticed (despite that I have very basic knowledge of Irish), that Nuala Carey speaks it (in my opinion) - strangely? It does not sound like Siun, Seamus, Brid Og or Sharon's Irish. Does she speak a specific dialect or just she do not know how to pronounce it properly?
Gallunach posted:
Quote:
- how the hell RTE.ie's content management system looks... ?
I haven't the foggiest what you mean by this sentence
This can be unclear for you if you are not a webmaster. I mean how their system of adding, moving and editing pages machine looks - for sure they don't edit their pages using FrontPage or Notepad though. I ask the question, because the output side of their efforts look kinda strange, lots of separate HTML files. BTW If you will be switching back, and back throughout the days available in the calendar you will notice, that the left menu does not look the same in all of the pages. Some pages have separate menus for TV and radio programmes, some pages have merged TV & radio into one programme menu. That's the main purpose why I've asked this question here - what kind of content management system they use if their pages are not enough integrated to have the one and only menu displayed on all of the pages? If you have more questions, you can send me a PM.
Trathnona maith agat.
PS Some time ago I've watched the new Nuacht weatherline (an idea of the new eagarthoir I think) and I've noticed (despite that I have very basic knowledge of Irish), that Nuala Carey speaks it (in my opinion) - strangely? It does not sound like Siun, Seamus, Brid Og or Sharon's Irish. Does she speak a specific dialect or just she do not know how to pronounce it properly?