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The Royal Wedding Day

(April 2011)

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NG
noggin Founding member
When BBC & ITV were Head to Head between 08:25-16:00:

BBC1: 11.77m (54.6%)
ITV1: 4.37m (21.1%)

So a ratio of 2.69:1, very good considering at the world Cup ITV were beat more like 5:1.


I wonder if that is because people realised ITV didn't have adverts during the Royal Wedding, when they did during the World Cup?

Think the BBC will pretty happy with an 18+million peak - and peak share over 60%.
VM
VMPhil
There is an article in The Times mentioned on the front page saying how ITV won the day in terms of content.
EA
Earlie37
I seem to remember someone mentioning that the BBC pod is the elections pod (nice reuse there, good move) - does anyone have any shots of it in use then? Would be nice to compare how they've changed the inside look for this.


You can see the BBC "pod" to the far left of this photo. As mentioned, it is their portable studio that was used for the Election too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13200114

You'll also see ITVs studio in the lowest (with open windows) tier on the main studios block. You should spot Philip laughing and Kate Garraway on the other sofa if you zoom in - she seems to be doing her hair!
AG
AxG
I seem to remember someone mentioning that the BBC pod is the elections pod (nice reuse there, good move) - does anyone have any shots of it in use then? Would be nice to compare how they've changed the inside look for this.
Kate Garraway on the other sofa if you zoom in - she seems to be doing her hair!


She's holding a camera, taking a shot of the carriage.
CH
chris
Not sure if this is the first TOTH to feature this as I've not been watching for the last few hours, but the 1900 TOTH featured the standard BBC News countdown music but with a montage of scenes from the day; no countdown numbers though.


Anybody got a capture of this?

This is turning into a bit of a mess on the One Show waiting for the next bit to happen


It was a good idea but they needed to keep the crowd a little quieter. Perhaps alcohol should have been banned Wink
NE
newsatten

You'll also see ITVs studio in the lowest (with open windows) tier on the main studios block. You should spot Philip laughing and Kate Garraway on the other sofa if you zoom in - she seems to be doing her hair!


It isn't Kate Garraway as she was in Bucklebury ( Kate's home town). Don't remember seeing her at Buckingham Palace.
Last edited by newsatten on 30 April 2011 4:05pm
DO
dosxuk
BBC astons for anyone who didn't see them:

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcroyalwedding.jpg
DB
dbl
Sooo much better than Gill Sans.
BR
Brekkie
And so much better than block white. The BBC News astons - especially the live bug - looks even more hideous with the bulletin shoe-horned in during the coverage yesterday - this look can't be replaced soon enough for my liking.
CH
Chie
So the BBC do it badly, and ITV do it brilliantly, just as it should be you reckon?


Were you being facetious there or was that a genuinely stupid comment?

I think we can all see for ourselves that there's a very broad consensus that ITV did a better job with its coverage. I'm not going to dispute that judgement. However, while "better" is a relative term, it does not automatically mean that anything relative to it is "bad".

Even if you really, REALLY hated Huw Edwards' commentary (and lord knows, I was certainly tiring of it by quarter to 1), no balanced view could fairly call the BBC coverage "bad"; indeed, I think it's safe to say that the BBC's reputation for handling such events - domestically and internationally - remains in tact despite ITV's superior performance on the home front today, and even despite some unflattering press write-ups. The BBC's coverage was, at worst, predictable and unsurprising; it was emphatically "by the book" - but that's not close to being able to fairly judge it as "bad".

The BBC's was really playing to its strengths for its massive worldwide audience by playing it so safe - too safe, some might argue, but for such a high-stakes event, I'm not surprised that the BBC didn't move away from its conservative approach; ITV didn't really have much to lose in doing things a bit differently (rather than just offering up a carbon copy of the Beeb's coverage), and they clearly had a lot more fun with their broadcast, and quite rightly won a lot of fans as a result.

Let's face it; if ITV's coverage had turned into a bit of a car crash, there'd have been some amusing commentary pieces in the papers about silly presenter pairings or failure to judge the appropriate tone for the day or whatever; then everyone would have rolled their eyes at ITV for five seconds, and swiftly gone back to watching X-Factor's Got Talent On Ice. The fallout would have been minimal. If the BBC had tried to push the boundaries and failed, the fallout would have been enormous; national scandal declared across every paper, calls for the licence fee to be axed, calls for the director-general to resign for allowing our state broadcaster to bring shame upon our nation as the world watched, and all the other pious bullsh!t one could easily envisage being thrown at the BBC to see what sticks - people generally don't need much of a reason to start frothing at the mouth in disgust and indignation at some heinous crime that the BBC has committed, as Points Of View and Newswatch both prove.

I offer hearty congratulations to ITV for doing something interesting, and for not being lazy and just producing a clone of the Beeb's offering, but trying to do something a bit more fun and distinctive, and pulling it off. But I think we should all try to be a bit less incredulous that the BBC's coverage wasn't any more 'exciting' than it was - especially when it was actually a well produced programme for a global audience that ultimately erred too heavily on the side of caution.


I don't think the BBC's 'conservative approach' was the problem yesterday. The problem was the presenters were very much in BBC News mode - intonating prepositions in that bizzare fashion that only the BBC does - 'we are now going live TO Westminster Abbey' - repeating their pet filler phrase 'of course' ad nauseum, going round the houses in order to make the commentary 'accessible' when five words would suffice, and stating the obvious every time they go back to the studio - 'the newlyweds just.. driving up the Mall.. there' - never! It is literally mind-numbing.

Whereas you turn over to ITV (if you haven't fallen into a hypnotic stupor) and it's like stepping into an entirely different world, where people actually talk normally and are not constantly on edge about what to say next.

And you say the BBC were playing to an international audience - who pays the licence fee?
NG
noggin Founding member
BBC astons for anyone who didn't see them:

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcroyalwedding.jpg


Was I the only one who kept thinking CrimeWatch during the broadcast ? (And very 90s design?)

Agree that it is fresher than Gill Sans - and I like transparency on astons - though I'm not a fan of semi-transparent white.
DH
Daniel H
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13200114

You'll also see ITVs studio in the lowest (with open windows) tier on the main studios block. You should spot Philip laughing and Kate Garraway on the other sofa if you zoom in - she seems to be doing her hair!


Looks like Colin Brazier in the studio to the left of the ITV one - the fella in the pink tie...
Last edited by Daniel H on 30 April 2011 11:48pm - 2 times in total

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