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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

From Monday 15th July 2019 (July 2019)

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JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.
BR
Brekkie
Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.

Overreaction much?
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.

Overreaction much?


I don't think so. Just being honest. 👍
WO
Worzel
...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.


newswatch@bbc.co.uk.
VM
VMPhil
...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.

The last thing I want them to do is go back to all caps. That is terrible for legibility and I congratulate BBC News on finally having the guts to use sentence case. And the flipper uses a sans serif font anyway - I’m not sure what flipper you’re talking about.


In my opinion the graphics are more legible, whatever the screen size. I don’t speak for everyone.
MD
mdtauk
The last thing I want them to do is go back to all caps. That is terrible for legibility and I congratulate BBC News on finally having the guts to do it. And the flipper uses a sans serif font anyway - I’m not sure what flipper you’re talking about.


In my opinion the graphics are more legible, whatever the screen size. I don’t speak for everyone.


This
TV
TVInfoSource
It irritates me how the gallery can’t decide on which way round they do the coming up headline:

The Papers
22:30

Or

22:30
The Papers
AN
all new Phil
Big fan of the new graphics, now I’ve had chance to watch properly. It all looks very neat.

I really like the animations, especially the BBC News logo sliding upwards. It’s quite bold in a way BBC News usually aren’t.

A shame they didn’t take the opportunity to update the titles. I still think the TOTH titles are ugly and clunky, they really need a rethink.
JO
Jon
What? You mean you didn’t book the week off work to watch the launch?

How can you call yourself a TV presentation fan?
HA
harshy Founding member
Big fan of the new graphics, now I’ve had chance to watch properly. It all looks very neat.

I really like the animations, especially the BBC News logo sliding upwards. It’s quite bold in a way BBC News usually aren’t.

A shame they didn’t take the opportunity to update the titles. I still think the TOTH titles are ugly and clunky, they really need a rethink.

It’s better except for the lower thirds I think they could be improved by adding a line towards the left and making the lettering closer aka the nine and the lower thirds would look better for it shame my metropol account is missed up I would have shown what I meant.
AA
Aaron_2015
A mixed bag with these new graphics I feel. They do feel very different to the usual BBC News style, which is quite refreshing. The titles should have been updated to match though, they look stale in comparison.

The headline graphics are nice, but I think the logo needs to be under the text rather than above it. The main graphics actually look a little messy IMO, especially with the added program tags on the right hand side. I’m not a huge fan of the breaking news strap unnecessarily taking up about 30% of the screen either.

Credit to BBC News though for coming up with something pretty different, even if all of the graphics aren’t as effective as they could be.
Capybara, UBox and DavidWhitfield gave kudos
MO
Moz
...overall I still think the changes have done what they were supposed to do, making the graphics more legible.


In what way were they illegible previously? I've never turned the TV on previously and thought, 'Wow, these graphics are hard to decipher today,' but it is with the new white flipper bar. How does making the flipper font much smaller, using a Serif font, in lower-case lettering and slapping it on a white background which provides more background glare, make it easier to read? It lacks basic common sense. Fair play if you have a massive TV screen 46" or above, but smaller TV screens in bedrooms and garages etc, you've got little chance of seeing it comfortably. Breaking news & headlines along the bottom also lack impact in lower-case letters, at least in capitals, you knew something important was happening and they grabbed your attention.

The answer?
-Change the flipper to a black background
- Use Sans font, no unnecessary curly bits on the end
- Use capital letters for the flipper bar
- Increase the size of the font
-Reduce the height of the flipper
-Bring back the scrolling text

Sky News must be gaining viewers every day whilst this shambles remains on screen.


All of this is completely wrong.

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