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LE
lesmauresfr
cmthwtv posted:
nagolhcir posted:
FrancesC posted:
Saturday’s late news was started at 2210 on 27 June due to the FA Cup… When was the last time a Saturday bulletin uses a number branded titles? The Paris attack in 2015 (both 6 & 10)?

As I mentioned a month or so ago on here, the Saturday late is still the BBC News at Ten/BBC Weekend News (just the same as Sunday) the only differences being the titles, as the Sat late is more often then not actually on the hour (except recently). The other main difference is of course they don’t hand to N + R at the end. Otherwise the programme is produced and presented by the same team as in the week and on Sunday.
FYI I read about this in a pdf file published quite recently (2019 I think) somewhere online. Worth trying to find if you’re interested.


I understand your logic, but this simply isn't the case. Saturday late is produced by 6 and 10, however branded as "BBC Weekend News". Same with the lunchtime news, it's branded "BBC Weekend News". It's a different length, format, presenters and often time. I'm having an on-going dispute with somebody on wikipedia about this who seems to think that Saturday is branded "BBC News at Ten" - when it used (most of the time) generic titles, and on the EPG is labelled "BBC Weekend News".

Oh Wikipedia is simply a load of nonsense and, as many others have come to realise, it’s impossible to edit it without full hard proof.
I’ll find the document where I read about this though^
Also worth noting that Sat Late appears as all sorts of different names on EPGs, often just as "BBC News" in fact.
FC
FrancesC
cmthwtv posted:
nagolhcir posted:
FrancesC posted:
Saturday’s late news was started at 2210 on 27 June due to the FA Cup… When was the last time a Saturday bulletin uses a number branded titles? The Paris attack in 2015 (both 6 & 10)?

As I mentioned a month or so ago on here, the Saturday late is still the BBC News at Ten/BBC Weekend News (just the same as Sunday) the only differences being the titles, as the Sat late is more often then not actually on the hour (except recently). The other main difference is of course they don’t hand to N + R at the end. Otherwise the programme is produced and presented by the same team as in the week and on Sunday.
FYI I read about this in a pdf file published quite recently (2019 I think) somewhere online. Worth trying to find if you’re interested.


I understand your logic, but this simply isn't the case. Saturday late is produced by 6 and 10, however branded as "BBC Weekend News". Same with the lunchtime news, it's branded "BBC Weekend News". It's a different length, format, presenters and often time. I'm having an on-going dispute with somebody on wikipedia about this who seems to think that Saturday is branded "BBC News at Ten" - when it used (most of the time) generic titles, and on the EPG is labelled "BBC Weekend News".


Technically all weekend bulletins are branded as ‘BBC News’ only - but they are listed as ‘BBC Weekend News’ on the iPlayer schedule.
BF
BFGArmy
It's now been removed by the BBC but I have to say videos like the below really do not do the BBC any favours whatsoever when it comes to perception of bias.





Surely somewhere along the way when preparing that video somebody should've stopped and realised the whole presentation of it (Sunak being 'Superman') wasn't the brightest idea. And that's without getting into some of the language ('Get out there and join the chancellor on the frontline') and the bizarre CBBCesque presentation from Dharshini - there's probably a good explanation video in there but instead it comes across as dumbed down, potentially partisan fluff..
CU
Custard56
Unusual to see BBC London's late night (10:20pm Sunday) bulletin using the daytime London backdrop. Maybe the cost-cutting starts here.
RN
Rolling News
Custard56 posted:
Unusual to see BBC London's late night (10:20pm Sunday) bulletin using the daytime London backdrop. Maybe the cost-cutting starts here.

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I don't see how it would cost them more to change a backdrop. Unless they employ people specifically to do it, which sounds like the easiest job in the world.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Rolling News posted:
Custard56 posted:
Unusual to see BBC London's late night (10:20pm Sunday) bulletin using the daytime London backdrop. Maybe the cost-cutting starts here.

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I don't see how it would cost them more to change a backdrop. Unless they employ people specifically to do it, which sounds like the easiest job in the world.


Oh, for goodness sake, Rolling News! As I've explained to you many times, that backdrop is freshly painted by the BBC art department for each and every bulletin. In meticulous detail, I have to say. It takes six artists to complete the backdrop for one bulletin.

You'll never become a BBC News Presenter alongside me if you don't start to take these matters seriously.........
CM
cmthwtv




Very Happy
CM
cmthwtv
In other news... Newswatch is back on 4th September... So I assume the Tuesday of that week (Mon is bank hol) is going to be "back to normal" if there even is a "going back".



JF
JF World News
I imagine Monday for Beyond 100 Days or might it be rebranded as 65 Days To Go...
Last edited by JF World News on 3 August 2020 12:07pm
AS
Asa Admin
cmthwtv posted:




Very Happy

My first thought when seeing that clip isn't Carrie but wishing they'd sort out not crashing into the countdown. I guess they're going dead on 09:00:00 where for some reason the News Channel are running late.

Surely when you've got 1-2m viewers watching on BBC One it would be better to always start on the studio shot early, even if it does mean a few viewers on the News Channel have a bit of awkward dead air.
CM
cmthwtv
Asa posted:
cmthwtv posted:




Very Happy

My first thought when seeing that clip isn't Carrie but wishing they'd sort out not crashing into the countdown. I guess they're going dead on 09:00:00 where for some reason the News Channel are running late.

Surely when you've got 1-2m viewers watching on BBC One it would be better to always start on the studio shot early, even if it does mean a few viewers on the News Channel have a bit of awkward dead air.


Breakfast doesn't have a fixed end time I believe, so it never ends dead on 08:59 or whatever. So the news channel runs a filler rather than countdown ready for BBC One to opt in again, which is never dead on 09:00:00
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Not helped by the pres mixer not reacting instantly, so the director can't wait for the studio to appear before taking it.

I wonder if either there would be a solution using the same set up that allowed Studio A to play weather to BBC1 HD and originate the local part of the 8pm bulletin for London could be used to only play the filler to the News Channel and offer a clean studio output to BBC1 pres?

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