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BBC News (UK) presentation - Reith launch onwards

From Monday 15th July 2019 (July 2019)

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JT
JamesTV
chris posted:
There is a balance between interesting presentation talk and posters jumping on the smallest, briefest mistakes which are understandably becoming more frequent. It’s become very tiring - probably thanks to many bored posters. I won’t stop defending the industry in tough times but I will try and ignore if it continues.

The industry is something we're all passionate about as David has said in the previous post. All I'm saying though, is that AxG's post was something the majority were interested to see. Nobody is criticising BBC News here who provide one of the best news services the country, or indeed World has to offer.
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dosxuk
Doesn't one member have a signature at the moment saying "BBC News - The home of cock ups" or something similar?
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bilky asko
Doesn't one member have a signature at the moment saying "BBC News - The home of cock ups" or something similar?


If it were the real BBC News slogan, wouldn't it be "The home of cocks-up", as in "Directors-General"?
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JAS84
Just saw this on the BBC News website (on an article about Boris Johnson leaving the ICU). Is this new to the website? I'm sure it was a non-Reith graphic that said Breaking News before.
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File name says nc in it, which is interesting, it seems to be the same graphic actually used on TV.

(bbc.co.uk forum thread was archived, by the way)
JW
JamesWorldNews
I saw that new graphic (on air and online) for the first time yesterday.
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Worzel
Gill Sans BBC News logo on tonight's BBC News at Ten close, along with copyright tag.

It still lives on!
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Rolling News
Gill Sans BBC News logo on tonight's BBC News at Ten close, along with copyright tag.

It still lives on!

They still use(d) that on the Victoria Derbyshire programme.
JT
JamesTV
Gill Sans BBC News logo on tonight's BBC News at Ten close, along with copyright tag.

It still lives on!

Brave mentioning that, you'll soon be reprimanded and told that mistakes like that are to be expected during times like this... Wink

But truthfully, that Gill Sans logo should've been removed from the relevant systems a long time ago
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Worzel
Gill Sans BBC News logo on tonight's BBC News at Ten close, along with copyright tag.

It still lives on!

Brave mentioning that, you'll soon be reprimanded and told that mistakes like that are to be expected during times like this... Wink

But truthfully, that Gill Sans logo should've been removed from the relevant systems a long time ago


Thing is I work in radio and we get listeners pointing things out that go wrong on air from time to time, or make suggestions. Often its left to me to respond.

Sometimes the points people make are valid and I'll often thank that person. Sometimes they're not, but I certainly wouldn't respond in a rude manner such as 'You're wrong, now go away' or be dismissive of their views. You don't know whether they're experiencing mental ill health or going through a bad time and want to vent their frustration over something that others might find small or not important. I always ensure that responses are respectful and have context as well as an explanation as to why it can't be done or won't work.

I've heard people say the individuals who spot things that go wrong 'aren't proper listeners/viewers'. Yes they are. They're just more likely to spot or hear things that go wrong as they're attuned to it (or are perfectionists). Everyone is guilty of it, I am too on here. However, there's a line to draw and people getting personal about others is a line I and most people never cross.

I often wonder how many conversations happen around the water coolers at the main broadcasters with senior staff commenting on things that have gone wrong at their competitors, or new graphics which they don't like. I suspect it does happen and its no different to what happens on here.

People are protective of their workplace and the work they do, that's understandable and its great there are people who have such loyalty and should be admired. But if people aren't prepared to listen to comments or feedback, whether mundane or serious, that's when things get stale and change doesn't happen.
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Ne1L C
An excellent post. I have a background in community radio and during my presenting days I was determined to do the best possible job I could. Yes I cocked up but that's human nature. Radio stations like TV Channels have a lot of responsibility to keep on top of things in terms of both content and presentation.

Its reassuring that viewers and listeners care passionately about the media in this country (many posts on the forum have illustrated this in these trying times) and yes I concur that there are those who seem more aware of hitches then most but that is passion in a different form.

My belief is, was and always will be is that a tv or radio station's primary function is to provide for their audience and that includes taking notice of what their audiences tell them. Yes I agree with many posts on here and disagree with many but I wouldn't insult the posters. (On a side note though I have had certain posters accusing me of being morbid, ignorant and a stirrer which I have to say is a bloody disgrace)

Nothing stays the same forever. Yes, this nightmare we're going through will end and we will adapt (how, though remains to be seen) and tv and radio stations will adapt and change. Its our responsibility to ensure that the future can be moulded.
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Rolling News
I see the NC have finally given up on Sportsday and is showing an edition of Click instead.
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Stuart
I see the NC have finally given up on Sportsday and is showing an edition of Click instead.

After the self-indulgent sobbing from Spencer Kelly last week, I am surprised that Click is still even being broadcast.

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