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DD
DarkestDreams
jrothwell97 posted:
matthew-hmm-9999 posted:
Come on, can you imagine having to turn to ITV for regional news? Very Happy


I would sooner tie myself to an anvil and jump from a second-floor window into a swimming pool filled with Tippex.


exactly my point Very Happy



r.e. The uses of a Daily Express

OK fine, maybe to line the boxes of the homeless?
JR
jrothwell97
matthew-hmm-9999 posted:
r.e. The uses of a Daily Express

OK fine, maybe to line the boxes of the homeless?


Not even fit for that. It just makes those poor people even more depressed.
WE
Westy2
What do you expect for a rag owned by Richard 'Dirty' Desmond?

Credibility!
RM
Roger Mellie
matthew-hmm-9999 posted:
This is the Sunday Express..... Shocked

I wouldn' t believe it if I were you Very Happy


It can't be true anyway, because they didn't link to it to Diana in any way
HO
House
Please - the express lie! NEVER! Laughing And why would the beeb allow for the new look BBC London then? Although it does make me think - why does some of the beebs regional news act like ITV (two presenters both on camera always, more amusing stories about crab fishing increasing) and some be a single, deadly serious presenter (like Riz or Asad on BBC London - shootings, stabbings, oh Peter Cockroft it'll be horrible weather wont it!)
BS
brotherton sands
Sunday Express article posted:
"There is an argument that it is an area which can be covered by local newspapers and radio"


I kind of agree with the logic of that argument.

Arguably, people are generally interested in what's happening on a national/international level, or what's happening on a very local level (e.g. just your town, or district, or county (at the most)).

The telly "regions" fall between those two extremes. The regions are often too big to be "local", but don't necessarily breed news stories of "national"-equivalent news value either.

Hence, (taking the BBC Midlands region, as a purely random choice of example), you have the problem of: "Do viewers in Stoke-on-Trent really want to hear about news from Gloucester (and vice-versa) in their "local" news programme?".

So, the "regions" are rather bizarre geographic areas, in terms of individual viewers' interest.
FN
FromtheNorth
The source of the article, was a university professor in Media Business!

Rolling Eyes

He thinks because of the BBC's relatively poor licence fee settlement BBC Regional news would be the first choice to cut back.

BBC have said they are committed to their regional shows, other things like local TV (the Midlands pilot) and new local radio stations for Bradford and Cheshire are more likely to be dropped.

In my opinion, the local TV was too local, and very dull. The only reason for watching would be if you were filmed by one of their reporters. The money would be more wisely spent on extra resources / additional bulletins for the main regional shows. They then could be looped streamed online and on a multi-screen.
JR
jrothwell97
Roger Mellie posted:
matthew-hmm-9999 posted:
This is the Sunday Express..... Shocked

I wouldn' t believe it if I were you Very Happy


It can't be true anyway, because they didn't link to it to Diana in any way


They'd be happy to say Prince Philip murdered Sally Taylor. (Even if she's not dead.)
PC
p_c_u_k
Never going to happen. The BBC are looking massively into local TV (something which is causing said newspapers to go mental, claiming anti-competitive practices).

Seems like yet another London-centric article. Regional news may not seem vital in LDN land, when the vast majority of the news agenda appears on the national news, but in the likes of Scotland it's vital.

If anything you may see regional news move from BBC1 to broadband in the very, very far future, but I can't see any other variation of that.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
p_c_u_k posted:
Never going to happen. The BBC are looking massively into local TV (something which is causing said newspapers to go mental, claiming anti-competitive practices).

Seems like yet another London-centric article. Regional news may not seem vital in LDN land, when the vast majority of the news agenda appears on the national news, but in the likes of Scotland it's vital.

If anything you may see regional news move from BBC1 to broadband in the very, very far future, but I can't see any other variation of that.


erm ... why would bbc one want to lose programme(s) which consistantly draw high audiences in early evening

i think you are talking out of your 'arris
MD
Mr D'Arcy
brotherton sands posted:
According to this Sunday Express article, BBC regional television news may be for the chop in the forseeable future, as a possible money-saving exercise, in the wake of the less-than-the-BBC-had-hoped-for Licence Fee. Confused

Any thoughts or comments, anyone?


They probably had one too many "Diana" stories and filled the gap with a bit of waffle! Laughing
PC
p_c_u_k
I didn't say it was going to happen tomorrow - it's very unlikely to happen before analogue switchoff. But say decades in the future these programmes lose their relevance, say the traditional audience for these programmes dies out and is not replaced by the next generation, say the BBC feels the regions are they are setup are out of date, what would be to stop them moving to broadband, where they can set their own parameters?*

* The correct answer probably being major lobbying by the major newspaper companies.

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