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Armed Insurrection at US Capitol Building

Split from US ELECTIONS 2020 Coverage

UT
UTVLifer Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
JCB posted:
Yes it was, and people died. Just because they looked stupid and didn't succeed doesn't mean it wasnt what it was. If the electoral college votes hadn't been moved in time they would have been destroyed. They did what the President told them to do because they believe the election was stolen.....which is also what the President told them. Why is this so hard to grasp?


You think if they destroyed the physical votes they wouldn't count anymore?

We might not but they would. And considering how long it's took them to count the things in the first place you wouldn't want to be losing them.

I think the fact though we are still discussing how newsworthy this story was a few days on means the call to air not even a newsflash on BBC1 and ITV during primetime on Wednesday was wrong. Some people clearly disagree with the view it warranted two hours of live primetime coverage which is fine, but I think news needs to be above the narrowminded view that if it doesn't directly affect Brits it isn't newsworthy - and sometimes people literally need these stories put in front of them.

Beslan for example is a story which I think in theory many of us would agree wouldn't warrant live news coverage, but for those of us who watched it unfold that day it's arguably one of the most memorable pieces of television of the mid-noughties.

Personally if it was me in charge at BBC; there should have been a short newsflash at 8PM whilst the story about the carnage at the Capitol was still live and then at 9PM another update or maybe taking The Katty/Christian hour instead of that show about the immune system which was a repeat.

ITV could have easily (from a schedule POV) slipped an newsflash into one of the primetime AD breaks
CO
commseng London London
JCB posted:
Yes it was, and people died. Just because they looked stupid and didn't succeed doesn't mean it wasnt what it was. If the electoral college votes hadn't been moved in time they would have been destroyed. They did what the President told them to do because they believe the election was stolen.....which is also what the President told them. Why is this so hard to grasp?


You think if they destroyed the physical votes they wouldn't count anymore?

We might not but they would. And considering how long it's took them to count the things in the first place you wouldn't want to be losing them.

I think the fact though we are still discussing how newsworthy this story was a few days on means the call to air not even a newsflash on BBC1 and ITV during primetime on Wednesday was wrong. Some people clearly disagree with the view it warranted two hours of live primetime coverage which is fine, but I think news needs to be above the narrowminded view that if it doesn't directly affect Brits it isn't newsworthy - and sometimes people literally need these stories put in front of them.

Beslan for example is a story which I think in theory many of us would agree wouldn't warrant live news coverage, but for those of us who watched it unfold that day it's arguably one of the most memorable pieces of television of the mid-noughties.

Yes it was newsworthy, nobody has said it is not.
Does it warrant a news flash, probably, does it require BBC 1 and ITV to suspend programming, no, not in my opinion.
Would you have BBC 2, Channel 4 and Channel 5 put it out too?
How about ITV 2, BBC 4, QVC Beauty?

You are losing sight of what broadcasting ought to be about with this. There are news channels on tv, news programming on the radio, online coverage of various sorts. It is really not narrowminded to say that this is important but does not require saturation coverage.

Had the USA been taken over in a civil war and democracy overturned, then it would be worth covering on the main channels live.
It hasn't been.
Some people stormed a building.
They were armed, but this is America, they all are.

The news on BBC 1 and ITV covered it at ten o'clock, only a few hours later.
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AS
Asa Admin Meridian (South East) South East Today
A reminder to keep this to the news coverage of the event and not the event itself.
Last edited by Asa on 9 January 2021 6:52pm
NE
Newsroom
With regards to the coverage. In the past few days CNN and MSNBC has achieved their largest viewership in their history. Whilst FNC who fueled the madness also saw increases, but Im sure their elderly audiences were probably turned off by treasonous actions of the people that they were seeing on television. The first few minutes of last nights Rachel Maddow programme was quite interesting in explaining why there was an "asymmetrical response" by law enforcement. I think we all know that the response would have been significantly different....lets just say under different circumstances. I hazard a guess to say there would have been for more dead people or at least more injured or people under arrest at this moment. Rolling Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-3Qodd_oCw
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/wednesday-jan-6-scoreboard-cnn-ranks-no-1-on-cable-news-msnbc-averages-its-largest-total-day-audience-ever/467392/

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cnn-has-most-watched-day-ever-with-capitol-insurrection-coverage/467372/


Brian Steltar shared the following from Medialite on Jan 7th.

Quote:
The insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, in which supporters of President Donald Trump breached the Capitol as Congress began to count electoral votes and confirm president-elect Joe Biden’s win, led to viewership wins for all three cable news networks.

But CNN drew truly staggering numbers. The network had its most-watched day in history, with more viewers than any broadcast or cable news program. MSNBC also had the highest-rated day in its history, and Fox News had its highest total day and prime time average since the 2020 presidential election.

From 2:30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m., as the chaos in the Capitol ratcheted up, CNN averaged 9.39 million viewers, with 3.27 million in the demo. Fox News had 6.07 million total viewers, with 1.58 in the demo, and MSNBC wasn’t far behind, with 5.84 million viewers, and 1.42 million in the demo.

Throughout the day, an average 5.94 million total viewers turned to CNN. By comparison, MSNBC had 4.54 million total viewers, and Fox News had 3.46 million. In the key demographic of viewers age 25-54, CNN had more than the other cable networks combined, with 2.07 million younger viewers; MSNBC had nearly 1.11 million, and Fox had 852,000.

CNN continued its dominance into prime time, with an average 8.42 million total viewers, and nearly 3.2 million in the demo. MSNBC had the second-most total viewers, 7.59 million, and 2.04 million in the demo. Fox News had the fewest total viewers in prime time, 4.71 million, and 1.19 million in the demo.


And from where I was watching here in the UK, so many friends on FB and other social media outlets were using the CNN UK URL and casting to their tvs. Shame it's near on impossible to calculate total worldwide figures, I'm sure they'd be insanely huge.
LL
London Lite Founding member London London
Cumulus Media who operate a set of conservative talk radio stations and have some pro-Trump talent on syndication deals have banned their hosts from continuing to mention that the election was rigged.
MA
Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today

You think if they destroyed the physical votes they wouldn't count anymore?

We might not but they would. And considering how long it's took them to count the things in the first place you wouldn't want to be losing them.

I think the fact though we are still discussing how newsworthy this story was a few days on means the call to air not even a newsflash on BBC1 and ITV during primetime on Wednesday was wrong. Some people clearly disagree with the view it warranted two hours of live primetime coverage which is fine, but I think news needs to be above the narrowminded view that if it doesn't directly affect Brits it isn't newsworthy - and sometimes people literally need these stories put in front of them.

Beslan for example is a story which I think in theory many of us would agree wouldn't warrant live news coverage, but for those of us who watched it unfold that day it's arguably one of the most memorable pieces of television of the mid-noughties.

Yes it was newsworthy, nobody has said it is not.
Does it warrant a news flash, probably, does it require BBC 1 and ITV to suspend programming, no, not in my opinion.
Would you have BBC 2, Channel 4 and Channel 5 put it out too?
How about ITV 2, BBC 4, QVC Beauty?

You are losing sight of what broadcasting ought to be about with this. There are news channels on tv, news programming on the radio, online coverage of various sorts. It is really not narrowminded to say that this is important but does not require saturation coverage.

Had the USA been taken over in a civil war and democracy overturned, then it would be worth covering on the main channels live.
It hasn't been.
Some people stormed a building.
They were armed, but this is America, they all are.

The news on BBC 1 and ITV covered it at ten o'clock, only a few hours later.


Yes. There seems to be a school of thought that if you are watching the telly, then you wish to be informed of important events instantly. It may come as a shock to a few, that many folk switch on the TV to escape from all the crap that's going on, and not be subjected to even more of it. There's not much that can't wait until later, or the next day as information, and the Capitol events fitted that category (for UK viewers)
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JO
Jonwo
We might not but they would. And considering how long it's took them to count the things in the first place you wouldn't want to be losing them.

I think the fact though we are still discussing how newsworthy this story was a few days on means the call to air not even a newsflash on BBC1 and ITV during primetime on Wednesday was wrong. Some people clearly disagree with the view it warranted two hours of live primetime coverage which is fine, but I think news needs to be above the narrowminded view that if it doesn't directly affect Brits it isn't newsworthy - and sometimes people literally need these stories put in front of them.

Beslan for example is a story which I think in theory many of us would agree wouldn't warrant live news coverage, but for those of us who watched it unfold that day it's arguably one of the most memorable pieces of television of the mid-noughties.

Yes it was newsworthy, nobody has said it is not.
Does it warrant a news flash, probably, does it require BBC 1 and ITV to suspend programming, no, not in my opinion.
Would you have BBC 2, Channel 4 and Channel 5 put it out too?
How about ITV 2, BBC 4, QVC Beauty?

You are losing sight of what broadcasting ought to be about with this. There are news channels on tv, news programming on the radio, online coverage of various sorts. It is really not narrowminded to say that this is important but does not require saturation coverage.

Had the USA been taken over in a civil war and democracy overturned, then it would be worth covering on the main channels live.
It hasn't been.
Some people stormed a building.
They were armed, but this is America, they all are.

The news on BBC 1 and ITV covered it at ten o'clock, only a few hours later.


Yes. There seems to be a school of thought that if you are watching the telly, then you wish to be informed of important events instantly. It may come as a shock to a few, that many folk switch on the TV to escape from all the crap that's going on, and not be subjected to even more of it. There's not much that can't wait until later, or the next day as information, and the Capitol events fitted that category (for UK viewers)


I think the news junkies need to stop wishing for BBC One and ITV to be rolling news channels, news is important but it shouldn’t dominate the schedules.
RK
Rkolsen World News
Worth mentioning CNNs most watched day was actually 11 million people back during the Gulf War.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-01-23-mn-683-story.html
Don’t let anyone treat you like you’re a VO/SOT when you’re a PKG.
MO
Mouseboy33
After 5 days hunkering down in hiding, the orange apparition finally speaks ( and he complains about free speech and twitter but the presidency has a friggin briefing room and the worlds media at its fingertips) and within seconds MSNBC immediately cuts away as he begins to lie. Unfortunately this is how they handling him now to add context and truth to the blatant lies the person keeps saying. Appaling.


Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 12 January 2021 4:06pm - 2 times in total
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BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
A special programme on ITV tonight.


Be nicer and more tolerant to each other. Them's the rules.
TM
TMD_24 Anglia (East) Look East
Kinda related to this but CNN doing special coverage of the impeachment vote from 9am ET (2pm UK) tomorrow. It's CNN Newsroom all the way until 7pm ET.
Does Graham Norton have Norton Security installed on his computer?
JF
JF World News West Country (East) Points West
Katty & Christian will be on air on BBC News & BBC World News tonight from 20:00 GMT / 15:00 EST, according to a producers Twitter account

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