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Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh is in hospital

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BR
Brekkie
I think the bigger problem will be actually finding broadcastable memories of the Duke. By definition his role has always been to be in the shadow of the Queen and in all honesty he is probably best known for his gaffes.

The DofE awards will likely be his biggest legacy, but I think compared to other royals we probably know far less about him as a person, and have far less to reminisce about.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I'm no Dermot O'Leary fan, but he is a solid presenter on those Cowell formats. On the radio however.....
JO
Jonwo
I'm sure there will be talking heads who were on the receiving end of the Duke's many gaffes!
AL
alexjac0788
What a load of rubbish. Dermot is an experienced broadcaster, not just a "primetime presenter" and has been hosting 2-3 hour radio shows weekly since 2004. This Morning didn't just pick a couple of people from last years Love Island to host the show, they picked one of the best live broadcasters in the country with nearly 25 years experience and someone who has had a successful role on the show for almost 20 years.

And nobody starts in a role fully experienced in that role. Phil has nearly 20 years under his belt at This Morning now - but didn't in 2002. However had he been dismissed then as just an ex-Saturday morning presenter he'd never had got the chance to get all that experience.


If you asked members of the public for the programme they most associated with Dermot, it would be X-Factor. Plain and simple. Absolutely, he is an experienced broadcaster, but that doesn't mean he suits all formats. Vanessa Feltz is also an experienced broadcaster, but when she guest-hosted TM a few years ago, it just didn't work.

And, yes, Alison has had plenty of experience on the show, but holding it for 2.5hours is something else altogether.

That is not to say they are incapable of hosting the show - Dermot was good when he hosted with Holly a few times, Alison was good when she hosted with Ruth once, and Rylan and Alison was also a good pairing.

Fern had already established her place on the programme by the time Phillip joined. She is also of a journalistic background, so likely led on the hard news items (initially, at least). No doubt, Phil learnt a lot from Fern over their tenure in dealing with such topics, and this is has probably repeated itself with Holly.
DD
DemonDays
I think Alison and Dermot would be fine, it's just that there'll be an expectation that it's given to ITN because it's a Cat 1 news story, so you bring out the big guns. Nothing more to it than that.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
We seem to be going round in circles here.

Does anybody really think that anyone other than ITV News are going to handle the obit for a senior royal, with the possible exception of if it were to be announced during ITV Breakfast hours?
BB
BBI45
We seem to be going round in circles here.

Does anybody really think that anyone other than ITV News are going to handle the obit for a senior royal, with the possible exception of if it were to be announced during ITV Breakfast hours?

I hope they go over to ITN regardless of the time of day. Nobody needs Piers Morgan going from royal obituary, to slamming Meghan Markle for seemingly unrelated reasons.
SC
Schwing
Is it not about time that a Mod stepped in and either a) deleted a lot of posts or b) locked the thread?
NE
Newsroom
They already did delete a load and rightly so, but this is becoming ridiculous.

Broadcast Protocols regarding the royals are available all over the internet and have been discussed on this very forum over the last decade+.

Is it not about time that a Mod stepped in and either a) deleted a lot of posts or b) locked the thread?
1H
the1hk
Why has someone not introduced a downvote button by now?
OC
Otis Crump

IIRC, there was a lot of speculation about her health at the time, so this merely reflected what many folk were saying. My point is, they are trained journalists, whereas neither Alison nor Dermot are.


They "obviously handled it beautifully" were your words. They obviously didn't, for the reason I gave. Just because "many folk (are) saying something" doesn't mean it should be repeated on national television. Especially not by two people who are, as you say, trained journalists. They know better.


Reflecting on what is being said online is perfectly acceptable IMO. The interactive nature of the show means audience views tend to feature quite heavily!


Can't have been perfectly acceptable in ITV's opinion, if they were immediately made to row back what they'd said.
AS
Asa Admin
This is clearly now going nowhere and given the latest update on the Duke's health I don't think there's much else to be said at the moment.

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