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One O'Clock News could be replaced by News 24 simulcast

(October 2004)

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LO
Londoner
BBC plans to cut costs on lunchtime and online news - Media Bulletin

A poor idea IMO - the agendas of a rolling news channel and a set-piece 30-minute bulletin are often not compatible, as we frequently see on ITV News.

News 24 needs to be able to concentrate on being News 24 - it is already compromised enough by the Breakfast simulcast, and the World bulletins overnight.
NE
Neil__
Stupid idea if you ask me.

And a nice up-to-date picture of Anna Ford too (she's in the 'virtual' news studio).
WM
Weather Man
I would suggest is to get a new news programe. Lunchtime is when politics & business news is coming in all the time, but the 1only gives news, weather and very little business (politics are in news). An idea is to get rid of the 1, and make a new programe with all these facotrs included:
such as this mock made by *guess* me!!
BBC World At One
I know i shouldnt!!
TE
TELEVISION
A stupid idea, the One is actually the best bulletin on BBC1 just now.

Although I agree with Weather Man, the programme could focus more on business and politics - the very last story ( which is often ' light ' ) could be dropped in place of a business report etc.
BN
Breakfast News
TELEVISION posted:
A stupid idea, the One is actually the best bulletin on BBC1 just now.


Yeah - the One is really good, especially with Jane Hill.

So if the One is axed - will we just see a N24 branded half-hour, from the N24 studio or from the nationals?
BR
Brekkie
I don't agree with this - I think it should be the other way round in fact, the 1pm News simulcast on News 24 (who at 1pm only offer a similar bulletin with signing).

Apart from overnight, I think that when news is simulcast it should be programmes from the BBC 1 team simulcast on News 24, rather than the other way around.

Also, like the idea above of a revamped lunchtime news programming incorporating politics, business and news - effectively combining Working Lunch, Daily Politics and the 1pm News.
DA
Dan Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
I don't agree with this - I think it should be the other way round in fact, the 1pm News simulcast on News 24


That wouldn't save any money, though.
IS
Isonstine Founding member
Remember the days when News 24 ran UK Tonight from 6pm-7pm...and the second half ran on BBC1 digital in the early days before the regional network was all set up.

The amount of stuff they missed with that was rather shocking actually. It was also a rather restrictive programme on the scale of things...because breaking news couldn't be done between 6.30-7.00 - despite there often being a few bits that I'm sure News 24 would have rather gone with than an obscure regional report from Look North.

Simulcasting is a very strange thing to do on a rolling news channel. BBC World can get away with it, because it isn't rolling news...and of course how can you properly compete on the same level?
NW
nwtv2003
Slightly OT but The One O'Clock News will have been on for 18 years on Wednesday. (Originally came on screen at 1pm on Monday October 27th 1986, and Neighbours will have also been on for 18 years)

I can see where they're coming from in this cost cutting measure, I don't see how much difference it would make, Anna Ford would still be there, it would still bring you the News, it'll still be on at 1pm. Plus how many people actually watch News 24 at 1pm? I am sure that not that many people do to be honest.

This whole thing is nothing new, the BBC have been doing it at Breakfast for over 4 years now! Plus ITV get away with it all of the time.

Now I could understand if it was the Six or the Ten, but it is only the One, it's not like they're scrapping the news slot or anything.
BA
Bail Moderator
nwtv2003 posted:
Slightly OT but The One O'Clock News will have been on for 18 years on Wednesday. (Originally came on screen at 1pm on Monday October 27th 1986, and Neighbours will have also been on for 18 years)


Well thats in intresting fact for a tv anorack such as myself to know. Me and the One O'Clock News are EXACTLY the same age Razz


Back to saving money instead of the usual "One" why not just have an exteneded daytime summery, just using the CSO in the national studio, but not powering the national studio up fully.
TI
timmy
I think the idea to replace the 1pm news with News 24 is a fantastic idea.

Aside from a few "news anoraks" and bored housewives, how many people really make time to watch the bulletin?
It is ludicrous that the BBC employ a squadron of journalists and technical staff and editors to produce a bulletin as, one floor above them, another squadron of journalists and technical staff and editors are producing a bulletin that is, apart from Anna Ford and the weather sequence, exactly the same.

And as we've seen with some of the big stories this year (Ken Bigley, Russian school siege), BBC One and BBC Two are quite confident to take News 24. So what's the point of duplicating everything for half an hour, at such an enormous cost?

I think it's fantastic that the BBC have finally realised their time to bathe in their jacuzzi of cash is up.
The BBC MUST provide value for money to justify the enormous amount of money it consumes and not just seen to be providing value for money.

This is an excellent and long overdue change and should be supported. I have no doubt that the army of staff employed on both channels with protest and moan and scream and shout. But that's to be expected when BBC staff face (uncomfortable) words like "new", "bold" and "work".
BB
BBC LDN
timmy posted:
IBut that's to be expected when BBC staff face (uncomfortable) words like "new", "bold" and "work".


That's right, because nothing has changed at the BBC since the 1990s, Greg Dyke achieved nothing during his tenure, and programmes appear on your TV by magic.

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