sounds rubbish!! hope they don't cut regional nwes i likew my daily dose of North Wesdt Tonight and half an hour is just perfect
The regional news will only be cut by a maximum 2 or 3 minutes, as each bulletin is only about 23 minutes long, with exception being the Nations, with the English regions handing back to the BBC 1 studio at about 18.53.
sounds rubbish!! hope they don't cut regional nwes i likew my daily dose of North Wesdt Tonight and half an hour is just perfect
The regional news will only be cut by a maximum 2 or 3 minutes, as each bulletin is only about 23 minutes long, with exception being the Nations, with the English regions handing back to the BBC 1 studio at about 18.53.
Currently, English Regions get 26 1/2 minutes plus a 30" trail slot, then 1 1/2 minutes of the national news recap.
sounds rubbish!! hope they don't cut regional nwes i likew my daily dose of North Wesdt Tonight and half an hour is just perfect
The regional news will only be cut by a maximum 2 or 3 minutes, as each bulletin is only about 23 minutes long, with exception being the Nations, with the English regions handing back to the BBC 1 studio at about 18.53.
Currently, English Regions get 26 1/2 minutes plus a 30" trail slot, then 1 1/2 minutes of the national news recap.
I can't help but feel that viewers in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have been a bit robbed.
When there were calls for a Scottish Six - there was no trial, and I cannot recall any viewer's opinions for a 'Nationwide' type show.
With Scotland's news services being sold down the Clyde..perhaps this is the time for a more innovative programme for BBC Scotland?
This is an ideal opportunity to have an hour long evening show with a summary and then in-depth analysis of Scotland's news day. They would be wise to tap into the talents of the Big Three; Sally, Shereen (if they poach her) and Annie Mac.
I can't help but feel that viewers in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have been a bit robbed.
When there were calls for a Scottish Six - there was no trial, and I cannot recall any viewer's opinions for a 'Nationwide' type show.
I think the reason for not seriously entertaining the possibility of a Scottish Six is that at a time when the rest of BBC News is talking about engaging in consolidation - using packages from the regions on N24, simulcasting of Nationals on N24 etc - the Scottish Six represented a shift in the other direction, largely duplicating the offering of the National Six but with a Scottish flavour (mainly removing those stories where legal or parliamentary interests extend only to England and Wales and replacing them with Scottish issues).
Additionally, many such stories could - or perhaps should - be more substantially covered in Reporting Scotland. The argument that Reporting Scotland is perhaps not the best way to cover all of Scotland's news is a sound one; the argument for a Scottish Six really isn't at a time when costs have to be reduced across the board. However, the issues of how best to cover Scotland are also being involved as part of the Local TV project. The successes and failures from that project will influence how Scotland is covered in the future, whether it be by covering a number of local footprints in the Local TV method, having two seperate regional programmes for Scotland, or by maintaining the current Reporting Scotland format but with opts out. The latter would be the best compromise towards a Scottish Six format, being able to cover issues of national Scottish interest, but not at the expense of more local coverage.
However that pans out though, the Scottish Six was always a bit of an ambitious idea for a BBC that's trying to reduce wasteful duplication. The Scottish Six always came across as being part of the Scottish obsession with branding absolutely anything as 'XXXX Scotland', more than a genuine and justifiable request to fill an important gap.
I can't help but feel that viewers in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have been a bit robbed.
When there were calls for a Scottish Six - there was no trial, and I cannot recall any viewer's opinions for a 'Nationwide' type show.
I think the reason for not seriously entertaining the possibility of a Scottish Six is that at a time when the rest of BBC News is talking about engaging in consolidation - using packages from the regions on N24, simulcasting of Nationals on N24 etc - the Scottish Six represented a shift in the other direction, largely duplicating the offering of the National Six but with a Scottish flavour (mainly removing those stories where legal or parliamentary interests extend only to England and Wales and replacing them with Scottish issues).
Additionally, many such stories could - or perhaps should - be more substantially covered in Reporting Scotland. The argument that Reporting Scotland is perhaps not the best way to cover all of Scotland's news is a sound one; the argument for a Scottish Six really isn't at a time when costs have to be reduced across the board. However, the issues of how best to cover Scotland are also being involved as part of the Local TV project. The successes and failures from that project will influence how Scotland is covered in the future, whether it be by covering a number of local footprints in the Local TV method, having two seperate regional programmes for Scotland, or by maintaining the current Reporting Scotland format but with opts out. The latter would be the best compromise towards a Scottish Six format, being able to cover issues of national Scottish interest, but not at the expense of more local coverage.
However that pans out though, the Scottish Six was always a bit of an ambitious idea for a BBC that's trying to reduce wasteful duplication. The Scottish Six always came across as being part of the Scottish obsession with branding absolutely anything as 'XXXX Scotland', more than a genuine and justifiable request to fill an important gap.
Completely agree with that.
There's also the issue that for (UK) national and international stories, a Scottish Six would always be the poor relation when it came to live interviews and two-ways, and would inevitably get such material after the England/Wales/NI Six. So whilst it could mean more prominence for Scottish news, it would almost certainly mean a weaker service for non-Scottish stories.
(wanders off aimlessly humming the Nationwide theme tune)
Which one?
The Good Word was the 2nd one, I seem to recall, replacing a big band thing. Then there was the one that began with the solo drums, and finally the synthy one used for the last couple of years. Have I missed any?
The regional programmes all had their own identities in the 1970s/80s. In fact some of the Nationwide national titles featured the names of the regional programmes.
Oh for the days of Up the West-East, East Anglia the Hard Way, Wales Kept Where It Should Be and Duff Announcers in Exile.
I can't help but feel that viewers in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have been a bit robbed.
When there were calls for a Scottish Six - there was no trial, and I cannot recall any viewer's opinions for a 'Nationwide' type show.
I think the reason for not seriously entertaining the possibility of a Scottish Six is that at a time when the rest of BBC News is talking about engaging in consolidation - using packages from the regions on N24, simulcasting of Nationals on N24 etc - the Scottish Six represented a shift in the other direction, largely duplicating the offering of the National Six but with a Scottish flavour (mainly removing those stories where legal or parliamentary interests extend only to England and Wales and replacing them with Scottish issues).
Additionally, many such stories could - or perhaps should - be more substantially covered in Reporting Scotland. The argument that Reporting Scotland is perhaps not the best way to cover all of Scotland's news is a sound one; the argument for a Scottish Six really isn't at a time when costs have to be reduced across the board. However, the issues of how best to cover Scotland are also being involved as part of the Local TV project. The successes and failures from that project will influence how Scotland is covered in the future, whether it be by covering a number of local footprints in the Local TV method, having two seperate regional programmes for Scotland, or by maintaining the current Reporting Scotland format but with opts out. The latter would be the best compromise towards a Scottish Six format, being able to cover issues of national Scottish interest, but not at the expense of more local coverage.
However that pans out though, the Scottish Six was always a bit of an ambitious idea for a BBC that's trying to reduce wasteful duplication. The Scottish Six always came across as being part of the Scottish obsession with branding absolutely anything as 'XXXX Scotland', more than a genuine and justifiable request to fill an important gap.
Completely agree with that.
There's also the issue that for (UK) national and international stories, a Scottish Six would always be the poor relation when it came to live interviews and two-ways, and would inevitably get such material after the England/Wales/NI Six. So whilst it could mean more prominence for Scottish news, it would almost certainly mean a weaker service for non-Scottish stories.
I can see both your points...but your main reasons against seem to be lack of editorial competence within BBC Scotland. This is not the place for me to go into depth about a Scottish Six...and why this would not mean a promotion of ignorance on UK and international stories. I certainly do not want Scotland to become the USA.
However, as you have said; there needs to be a full indepth top to bottom review of Scottish news in general.
