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Old News 24 DOG back

(April 2005)

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CW
cwathen Founding member
On News 24 at present, the old top left channel DOG has returned for the BBC's coverage of Charles and Camilla's wedding.

Although the 'tower' would be too big to leave on the screen, I didn't expect that. Perhaps it's time they introduced a transparent version of the DOG for these events as BBC World has.
AN
Ant
They also used the old DOG yesterday for the funeral of the Pope.
MA
Magoo
They also used it for the two minutes silence for the tsunami victims and the Auschwitz anniversary programme.
HA
harshy Founding member
cwathen posted:
On News 24 at present, the old top left channel DOG has returned for the BBC's coverage of Charles and Camilla's wedding.

Although the 'tower' would be too big to leave on the screen, I didn't expect that. Perhaps it's time they introduced a transparent version of the DOG for these events as BBC World has.


BBC World are using the coloured DOG.
BB
BBC TV Centre
http://tvforum.ath.cx:8080/tvftemp/news24dog.jpg

Personally, I like the DOG on screen in this fashion. Of course, I'd prefer if there were no DOG at all, but this is certainly a damn sight better than the 'thing' in the corner of the screen that obscures some of the picture.
NG
noggin Founding member
I notice that the clipping / keying on the Dog is now hugely improved (no black edges around it today) - it is now as clean as it was when it was the standard Dog.

I suppose the top left one is in keeping with BBC Three and BBC Four, and is less obtrusive than the transparent BBC World version.
CW
cwathen Founding member
Why has this thread been moved to the newsroom forum? It's got nothing to do with news, it's about presentation and should have been left in the main forum.
BN
Breakfast News
cwathen posted:
It's got nothing to do with news


Yes - News 24 has nothing to do with News Rolling Eyes
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
cwathen posted:
Why has this thread been moved to the newsroom forum? It's got nothing to do with news, it's about presentation and should have been left in the main forum.


Ah so the description text under The Newsroom title that says...
"Television news presentation and related comment"
..explains nothing to do with why it may have been moved to this forum.
CW
cwathen Founding member
It's about a channel DOG. That it's a news channel DOG is irrelevant. And the coverage on News 24 was not news, it was a BBC simulcast of a live event. That it might be reported as news later on is also irrelevant, as it wasn't in this context.

I've long felt that the newsroom forum is more of a hindrance than a strength to this place, and I understand it's introduction was intended to rid the main forum of those hideous 400 page 'The official Look North thread' type threads (and I'd also hope that that intrinsically annoying practice of people posting obituaries on here might see such threads shunted to the newsroom too, but frequently that doesn't happen), but extending it to mean that anything in any way connected with news has to be moved out of the main forum is silly.

Just as Metropol until recently suffered from over-proliferation, so is this place starting to if the moving of threads into a subject specific forum is taken to this extent.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I'm sorry that you feel that way, cwathen, but The Newsroom has been very successful, and I doubt Asa is about to get rid of it.

Regarding the moving of this thread, I felt that it was better suited to The Newsroom, as at the end of the day, you're talking about the presentation of a news channel. If it was about a DOG on Living TV, it would have been left where it was. But, since it is a news channel, I felt it was better suited in here. Apologies if you disagree, but sadly, it's impossible to please everyone.
MB
Mark Boulton
I agree with cwathen. How on earth can a discussion about DOGs and captions belong in a Newsroom forum just because its on a news channel? The thread is not commenting on the news itself, the way the news itself is presented, covered or announced, the news agenda of the channel, or comparing it to any other news channel.

It's NOTHING TO DO WITH NEWS! It's about channel graphics!

So the channel name contains the word "NEWS" in it -- so what? I think this proves that over-reliance on technology, computers, palmpilots, spell checking, text messaging, fuzzy web searching, etc. etc. has completely removed people's ability to work out the proper context and meaning of words; instead the only skill left by moderators it seems is to perform robot-like "If thread contains word X, move to forum Y", "If post contains word Z, ban user", etc. etc.

How about making these decisions based on relevance and topic, rather than applying such arbitrary rules based on simply how a search engine blindly searches for a string of characters?

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