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Northern England and Southern Scotland Thread

(February 2009)

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SP
Spencer
The Bilsdale issue is a big bugbear for many people in North Yorkshire. I know loads of people in the area who hate getting Tyne Tees and BBC NE&C rather than ITV1 Yorkshire and BBC One Yorkshire. Living in Harrogate, only about 15 miles away from Leeds, I can get a full DTT signal from Bilsdale, a couple of Mux's from Pontop Pike, and nothing from Emley Moor.

Until only a few weeks ago, we also got Tyne Tees South on Sky (as much of North Yorkshire still does), but this has now switched to Yorkshire in the Harrogate area.

It's a shame they've not chosen to go for a similar arrangement to the Ridge Hill transmitter, which has historically been a Central / BBC Midlands transmitter, but a few years ago also started broadcasting ITV1 West in analogue for viewers in Gloucestershire. After DSO, it will carry an extra Mux with BBC One West and ITV1 West.

I wonder if an extra Yorkshire Mux for Bilsdale (maybe from a directional transmitter beaming the signal south only) has ever been considered, or if there just aren't the available frequencies.
RJ
RJG
I hate to sound like a whinging Borderer but the real losers from ITV changes have been viewers in the South of Scotland. We now get an ITV service which offers more news from Sunderland than from our own area. And we have no access at all to wider Scottish-interest programming. "Border Scotland" was ditched, although there is still a separate MUX for it from Caldbeck. We aren't getting a TV service for the wrong county, it's the wrong COUNTRY.
UN
UpNorth
RJG posted:
I hate to sound like a whinging Borderer but the real losers from ITV changes have been viewers in the South of Scotland. We now get an ITV service which offers more news from Sunderland than from our own area. And we have no access at all to wider Scottish-interest programming. "Border Scotland" was ditched, although there is still a separate MUX for it from Caldbeck. We aren't getting a TV service for the wrong county, it's the wrong COUNTRY.


Well said. The whole idea is a shambles. Who on earth in southern Scotland will turn on and be interested in features from Newcastle or Teesside?
An ITV/ITN consortium don't deserve to keep the franchise...it's time for Selkirk to be given to STV and the rest of the area to someone else who'll try to improve the coverage for the north east and Cumbria.
KP
KelpieP0921
Was it just me or was the Carlisle Backdrop brighter & particularly the pan-regional backdrop really bright blue/teal colour? Just seemed all round brighter than usual..?
JJ
jjne
The whole thing is a bit of a pointless argument ultimately. We all know that the TenAlps consortium will fail, and these are the only group that will even make an attempt at improving the situation.

The Tories are not going to want to hand over licence fee money to ITN -- ITV in effect -- as (a) it provides an argument for the licence to remain and (b) they want "local monopolies" (what is it with the Conservatives and private monopoly interests anyway -- such establishments have to be the most evil force of all), which the ITN idea goes against.

The best we can hope for in five years is that maybe Newcastle might be big enough for a local station. The remainder of us stuck in the three regions affected will lose the duopoly completely, leaving only an increasingly threadbare and strangled BBC local service to soldier on.

To be honest I am not sure I can bring myself to blame the Gateshead team for the news-by-numbers service we've been left with.
JO
Jonny
As posted in the ITV News thread it looks as though Tyne Tees & Border could be next in line to receive the changes, with tonight's late bulletin coming from a temporary set.
ST
South Today
Jonny posted:
As posted in the ITV News thread it looks as though Tyne Tees & Border could be next in line to receive the changes, with tonight's late bulletin coming from a temporary set.


It looked like in front of a CSO screen. Whats happened to the smaller studio at Tyne Tees, which was used for the south edition of NET. Any ideas?
JO
Jonny
It looked like in front of a CSO screen. Whats happened to the smaller studio at Tyne Tees, which was used for the south edition of NET. Any ideas?

Mothballed I guess. Not worth getting it up and running for 1 bulletin.
JO
Jonny
Nothing much of interest to capture from the first GMTV bulletin. Looks like they haven't sorted out a pan-regional window yet:

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/gmtvy1.jpg

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/gmtvy2.jpg

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/gmtvy3.jpg

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/gmtvy4.jpg
KP
KelpieP0921
Yeah I thought the screen looked switch off... I hope at 6.15 they don't have the awful map westcountry do...


On those caps with the 'tyne tees and border' bit at the bottom left looked to close to the text on the main graphic
KP
KelpieP0921
Jonny posted:
Nothing much of interest to capture from the first GMTV bulletin. Looks like they haven't sorted out a pan-regional window yet:


I have just realised your TGD on YT! lol! Do u have any caps from last nights makeshift set?
JO
Jonny
Video of the first GMTV bulletin is available here. (How naff is that GMTV Christmas sting!)

Further images and videos will be posted throughout the day here.

And, as requested, the CSO set used last night:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/2007TopGearDog/tttvcso.jpg

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