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Afternoon Edition to be Scrapped (November 2019)

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JA
JAS84
Josh posted:
Does it rate better in the morning? I'd have thought if it is about cost cutting it would be easier to prep an afternoon bulletin.

The morning bulletin is watched widely across primary and some secondary schools across the country every day.
Really? I'd have thought most kids would be on the way to school (for an 8.30am start) at 8.15am when it airs. If they're neither at home nor at school, they can't watch it.
At a time when CBBC's audiences are falling, moving Newsround quietly earlier and earlier to a time when its target audience may not have arrived back home didn't seem a wise move.
These days, they should be home from school by 4pm, as they finish earlier than they used to. When I was at school (in the 90s) we finished at 3.30pm, but nowadays don't the kids leave half an hour earlier?
CA
Capybara
JAS84 posted:
Josh posted:

The morning bulletin is watched widely across primary and some secondary schools across the country every day.
Really? I'd have thought most kids would be on the way to school (for an 8.30am start) at 8.15am when it airs. If they're neither at home nor at school, they can't watch it.

As I posted in the other thread (not sure why there's two) Josh is saying the programme is watched in schools, not by school pupils.
Last edited by Capybara on 16 November 2019 6:23pm
London Lite and Josh gave kudos
JO
Jonwo
BM11 posted:
Could be seen as a bit unethical to encourage further internet use in children considering concerns some have.
In twenty years BBC News will all be online - the population who have no desire to use it will fell further marginalized.



I don't think putting more content online is unethical, the internet is part of everyday life so you can't expect the BBC to solely cater for the luddites
WH
Whataday Founding member
BBC: Young people aren't watching us as much as they should.
Also BBC: Axe Newsround.
BM
BM11
Jonwo posted:
BM11 posted:
Could be seen as a bit unethical to encourage further internet use in children considering concerns some have.
In twenty years BBC News will all be online - the population who have no desire to use it will fell further marginalized.



I don't think putting more content online is unethical, the internet is part of everyday life so you can't expect the BBC to solely cater for the luddites

It's fueling fear and resentment.
BR
Brekkie
Jonwo posted:
BM11 posted:
Could be seen as a bit unethical to encourage further internet use in children considering concerns some have.
In twenty years BBC News will all be online - the population who have no desire to use it will fell further marginalized.


I don't think putting more content online is unethical, the internet is part of everyday life so you can't expect the BBC to solely cater for the luddites

Remember BM11 has only found the depressing parts of the internet.
BM
BM11
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49607061
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I don't see the issue with encouraging children to engage more with online content. The generation that are watching Newsround now are digital natives; they have never known anything else. The vast majority of them will have used tablets from their earliest years. In fact, I would argue that online content is actually serving this generation better than TV.

The other statement BM11 makes is about BBC News being completely online in 20 years. Personally, I'm not sure, but nothing would surprise me anymore. Twenty - even ten - years ago, I couldn't have predicted where we are on the cusp of 2020. Nonetheless, the BBC News article cited to back up this statement states that virtually everyone under the age of 50 is online and that it is older (and to some extent poorer) people who don't use the Internet. Fast forward the next 20 years and the 50-year-olds will be 70-year-olds. The vast majority of those older people not currently using the Internet will have, sadly, died. As time goes on, more people will be online than ever before, probably reaching almost 100% eventually as access improves and costs fall. I could have understood your argument if you had put it forward in 1999, but not in 2019.

In terms of Newsround, I've said this before, but I really do think the BBC greatly over-expanded in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The growth of platforms was, with hindsight, unsustainable. The explosion in channels (and not just the BBC) since the 1990s has actually led to more of less in many ways. Most digital channels are just churning out repeats all the time and the money that is available for new content is spread too thinly. I don't see anything wrong with the BBC cutting services and consolidating what's left into fewer platforms. I would actually be content with a couple of BBC TV channels, complemented by a strong online presence (and radio, obviously). They would then have less airtime to fill and, hopefully, the quality of the output would increase dramatically.
BR
Brekkie
BM11 posted:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49607061

If you're going to post a link at least make a post to go with it, and also ensure that link is relevant. This one is not directly related to this story and whilst I get the headline may support an argument that not everyone has moved into an internet world considering that article says absolutely nothing about childrens access to the internet it is completely irrelevant to this thread.
JO
Jonwo
BM11 posted:
Jonwo posted:
BM11 posted:
Could be seen as a bit unethical to encourage further internet use in children considering concerns some have.
In twenty years BBC News will all be online - the population who have no desire to use it will fell further marginalized.



I don't think putting more content online is unethical, the internet is part of everyday life so you can't expect the BBC to solely cater for the luddites

It's fueling fear and resentment.


Stop making things up again.
TC
TCOTV
“Newsround is not the same as CBBC is aimed younger”

“Newsround is dumb down”

“CBBC can’t afford all the bulletins”

“Newsround is important for kids”

My view, why doesn’t the BBC let BBC News take control of it. Grow it up a bit like it use to be because it wouldn’t need to aim down because it’s not under CBBC remit. Have a bulletins Morning and Afternoon on BBC Two maybe after 7pm on the CBBC channel . Article could be linked and run by BBC News online. Newsround could even move to London and work closely with Newsbeat.

I do agree it’s important and I not a fan of this cut. If they had said they would make so many hours online I would get it but they have not done that which concerns me.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
As far as I'm aware Newsround was never part of BBC News, it just used their facilities and in the early days some BBC news correspondents filed a kid friendly version of their reports - often because it meant their kids would see their work!

The idea of working with Newsbeat is interesting, I think there are Newsbeat alumni amongst the production team

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