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If the newsreader has an input in the stories covered, why is the running order and the stories covered often identical on the main news stations.
Because every broadcaster has more or less the same stories to cover. There are only so many news stories in a day, and it's pretty obvious which the big ones are
Exactly my point...thus presenters don't decide what's on the programme. Writing the scripts is the least they could do. It's a fine job, you don't get wet either. I do take the point that the hours are unsociable but that's it.
Of course they decide what's on the programme. As I keep saying, it's not just picking stories to cover and that's that. The production meetings - where the programme editors, producers and presenters get together - also discuss HOW the stories are going to be covered - which angle are they going to take? Who are they going to get as commentators? Is there going to be a studio debate? These things are decided well in advance of broadcasts so reporters can be sent off with briefs etc. What about if the presenter is going to be interviewing an important politician live on the programme? They need to know exactly what they want to get out of the interview and they need to properly brief themselves so they don't get caught out themselves. I don't think you'd just saunter in and interview George Galloway or Peter Mandelson without preparing yourself first. If you think newsreading is just walking into a studio and reading off a pre-prepared autocue, then you are sadly mistaken.
Edit - when I sat in the Channel 4 News control room, I remember Samira Ahmed asking for changes to the images shown during the headlines sequence just minutes before transmission because she wasn't happy with it. They're a lot more involved than you think.
Right, but the reports on the 6 news are virtually the same as the 10 news on ITV and BBC unless there's been a breaking story. Newsreaders do interviews once every 6 months and when they're done live, they last 2 or 3 minutes, even less on ITV.
If anyone can remember Anna Ford doing the 1 o'clock news. Nobody can tell me she decided the running of the programme and everything else. She went in for the morning updates, the 1 news and then went home.
Have you watched my YouTube video that Chris linked to earlier? It clearly shows Anna heavily involved in planning for the One O'Clock News and it follows Huw round all day preparing for the Six. And if you think it's all an act for the video, it's not - I've seen it happening in real life.
Of course there's consistency between the different news programmes. However, there is a clear development in how each story is treated throughout the day. Each news bulletin has its own editorial team (including the presenter) which decides on how each story is going to be treated in their programme. The lunchtime news is usually more dependent upon live two-ways with reporters, whereas the evening and particularly late evening bulletins rely more on packages and in-depth analysis by correspondents/reporters. I'm not saying the presenter has complete control over what is covered and how it is covered. That's what the editor is there for. However, they do not just turn up and read, which is what you are implying. Any presenter worth his or her salt is heavily involved in the planning and preparation for their programme. Are you telling me that you would feel comfortable just turning up and presenting a live news bulletin without any idea of what is being covered and how? I never saw him live but I've been told that John Suchet knew the news of the day so well that he used to regularly adlib his links live on air. Now, that's skill.
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If the newsreader has an input in the stories covered, why is the running order and the stories covered often identical on the main news stations.
Because every broadcaster has more or less the same stories to cover. There are only so many news stories in a day, and it's pretty obvious which the big ones are
Exactly my point...thus presenters don't decide what's on the programme. Writing the scripts is the least they could do. It's a fine job, you don't get wet either. I do take the point that the hours are unsociable but that's it.
Of course they decide what's on the programme. As I keep saying, it's not just picking stories to cover and that's that. The production meetings - where the programme editors, producers and presenters get together - also discuss HOW the stories are going to be covered - which angle are they going to take? Who are they going to get as commentators? Is there going to be a studio debate? These things are decided well in advance of broadcasts so reporters can be sent off with briefs etc. What about if the presenter is going to be interviewing an important politician live on the programme? They need to know exactly what they want to get out of the interview and they need to properly brief themselves so they don't get caught out themselves. I don't think you'd just saunter in and interview George Galloway or Peter Mandelson without preparing yourself first. If you think newsreading is just walking into a studio and reading off a pre-prepared autocue, then you are sadly mistaken.
Edit - when I sat in the Channel 4 News control room, I remember Samira Ahmed asking for changes to the images shown during the headlines sequence just minutes before transmission because she wasn't happy with it. They're a lot more involved than you think.
Right, but the reports on the 6 news are virtually the same as the 10 news on ITV and BBC unless there's been a breaking story. Newsreaders do interviews once every 6 months and when they're done live, they last 2 or 3 minutes, even less on ITV.
If anyone can remember Anna Ford doing the 1 o'clock news. Nobody can tell me she decided the running of the programme and everything else. She went in for the morning updates, the 1 news and then went home.
Have you watched my YouTube video that Chris linked to earlier? It clearly shows Anna heavily involved in planning for the One O'Clock News and it follows Huw round all day preparing for the Six. And if you think it's all an act for the video, it's not - I've seen it happening in real life.
Of course there's consistency between the different news programmes. However, there is a clear development in how each story is treated throughout the day. Each news bulletin has its own editorial team (including the presenter) which decides on how each story is going to be treated in their programme. The lunchtime news is usually more dependent upon live two-ways with reporters, whereas the evening and particularly late evening bulletins rely more on packages and in-depth analysis by correspondents/reporters. I'm not saying the presenter has complete control over what is covered and how it is covered. That's what the editor is there for. However, they do not just turn up and read, which is what you are implying. Any presenter worth his or her salt is heavily involved in the planning and preparation for their programme. Are you telling me that you would feel comfortable just turning up and presenting a live news bulletin without any idea of what is being covered and how? I never saw him live but I've been told that John Suchet knew the news of the day so well that he used to regularly adlib his links live on air. Now, that's skill.