The Newsroom

Newsnight

(January 2008)

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dosxuk
Without knowing what's going on behind the scenes I feel it's rather unfair of you to single Paxo out for critisism. He may not like it, but I'm sure he's not the only person on the whole Newsnight team, both in London and Scotland.

Normally when these sort of things end up on screen, it's the result of fixing a problem or mistake somewhere else. There are literally hundreds of reasons Paxo could be hurrying, doing it to deliberatly upset the scottish is not likely to be it.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
The thing I don't like about Paxman is the way he shows his feelings onscreen. He's done this before - remember the weather forecast saga a few years ago? You don't see any other newsreader criticising the BBC or its decisions. It doesn't come across as being terribly professional.
ST
Stuart
martinDTanderson posted:
Just give Scotland and Wales [NI?] their own 6 and 10 bulletins

You are forgetting, as everyone seems to, that England is also a nation. Are you suggesting that 4 different versions of the Six/Ten o'clock News are broadcast, with the truly "national" version only available on BBC WORLD?

Or are you saying that England should be the only nation not to have it's own bulletin, and take a "national" version for everyone in the UK?
TV
archiveTV
itsrobert posted:
The thing I don't like about Paxman is the way he shows his feelings onscreen. He's done this before - remember the weather forecast saga a few years ago? You don't see any other newsreader criticising the BBC or its decisions. It doesn't come across as being terribly professional.


I think you missed the fact that his tongue was firmly in his cheek, and it provided highly entertaining television.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
archiveTV posted:
itsrobert posted:
The thing I don't like about Paxman is the way he shows his feelings onscreen. He's done this before - remember the weather forecast saga a few years ago? You don't see any other newsreader criticising the BBC or its decisions. It doesn't come across as being terribly professional.


I think you missed the fact that his tongue was firmly in his cheek, and it provided highly entertaining television.


Nevertheless, it does come over as less than professional whether his tongue was in his cheek or not. You wouldn't catch Huw Edwards, Trevor McDonald or practically any other newsreader doing it on air. As others have said, at times it seems Paxman thinks he's bigger than the news itself.
TV
archiveTV
itsrobert posted:
archiveTV posted:
itsrobert posted:
The thing I don't like about Paxman is the way he shows his feelings onscreen. He's done this before - remember the weather forecast saga a few years ago? You don't see any other newsreader criticising the BBC or its decisions. It doesn't come across as being terribly professional.


I think you missed the fact that his tongue was firmly in his cheek, and it provided highly entertaining television.


Nevertheless, it does come over as less than professional whether his tongue was in his cheek or not. You wouldn't catch Huw Edwards, Trevor McDonald or practically any other newsreader doing it on air. As others have said, at times it seems Paxman thinks he's bigger than the news itself.


No. He just doesn't take the job, or himself, as seriously as as some of the others do.

And he can get away with far more on a late night programme like Newsnight than if he was reading a news bulletin.

The man's a hero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMAt8ZXqtbc&feature=related
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itsrobert Founding member
archiveTV posted:
itsrobert posted:
archiveTV posted:
itsrobert posted:
The thing I don't like about Paxman is the way he shows his feelings onscreen. He's done this before - remember the weather forecast saga a few years ago? You don't see any other newsreader criticising the BBC or its decisions. It doesn't come across as being terribly professional.


I think you missed the fact that his tongue was firmly in his cheek, and it provided highly entertaining television.


Nevertheless, it does come over as less than professional whether his tongue was in his cheek or not. You wouldn't catch Huw Edwards, Trevor McDonald or practically any other newsreader doing it on air. As others have said, at times it seems Paxman thinks he's bigger than the news itself.


No. He just doesn't take the job , or himself, as seriously as as some of the others do.

And he can get away with far more on a late night programme like Newsnight than if he was reading a news bulletin.

The man's a hero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCo7qbzEX3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMAt8ZXqtbc&feature=related


I'd argue that in itself is cause for concern...
PC
p_c_u_k
As funny as it all is, he does verge on the character being played by Chris Morris in The Day Today at times.

I take it Newsnight Scotland jumped in there half way through a conversation - three minutes early tonight.
GF
GrampianForever
StuartPlymouth posted:
You are forgetting, as everyone seems to, that England is also a nation. Are you suggesting that 4 different versions of the Six/Ten o'clock News are broadcast, with the truly "national" version only available on BBC WORLD?

Or are you saying that England should be the only nation not to have it's own bulletin, and take a "national" version for everyone in the UK?


No, what you don't seem to understand is that the 1/6/10 are effectively English news programmes! OK, they cover World News, but as far as their domestic coverage goes, its pretty much England, or sometimes England and Wales. Very rarely is it England and Wales and Scotland and NI.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
dosxuk posted:
Without knowing what's going on behind the scenes I feel it's rather unfair of you to single Paxo out for critisism. He may not like it, but I'm sure he's not the only person on the whole Newsnight team, both in London and Scotland.

Normally when these sort of things end up on screen, it's the result of fixing a problem or mistake somewhere else. There are literally hundreds of reasons Paxo could be hurrying, doing it to deliberatly upset the scottish is not likely to be it.


I'm not so naive as to have not considered the myriad things that can affect timings in television news.

I'm referring to the unmistakable harrumphing Jeremy does when he announces Scotland out of the network programme.

Like I say, cable and satellite viewers can choose to stay with network or even watch it on iPlayer.

I'm much less inclined to do so when Jeremy is behaving petulantly, though.
DD
DarkestDreams
I still love this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Jbu2KGOCw&feature=related
LO
Londoner
Long interview with Paxman by Roy Greenslade
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1406224110

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